There's a lot of wisdom here.

I ended up building a hybrid rack using just Dynagen/Dynamips (not GNS3)
along with 3560 switches and even a couple of 1841's for a bit of real kit,
but I still spent several days over the course of two years messing with
it. I found the 37XX serial drivers to be wonky, so had to rework all my
topos for 7200s. Found OSPF to be glitchy on the BBs when using a 2691
image for them, had to back them down to 3640s and rework the configs.
Would often (esp in TS scenarios) be unsure if an issue I was seeing was
definitely Dynamips, or if it was an injected fault. I upgraded my Ubuntu
server one time and that flipped the VLAN offload default and my lab was
broken for like 3 days until I figured that one out. And there were still
artifacts from the hybrid setup in my labs (notably Port Security would
always catch me because the break-out switch's MAC would be seen on ports
as well as the conneted device).

I just happened to be looking on eBay last night, and with 3560s in the
US$200 range and 2611XMs (capable of the 12.4(15)T14 load used in the lab
exam [as of 6 months ago]) going for about US$60-80, and even 1841's
attainable for US$80-100 if you're patient, the cost of building a physical
lab is not all that much. At least for those in the US making a decent
wage. I realize the picture can be much different elsewhere in the world.

I'm a big fan for a quality virtual lab, and I still use GNS3 for some
functions day-to-day, and I'm also *really* looking forward to Cisco VIRL,
but for intense, focused study like for the CCIE lab consider making the
investment in yourself. I still use my lab pretty regularly for switching
experiments. I can't bring myself to sell it off. Instead, I've beefed it
up with an ASA, a small wireless controller, a few access points, and I'm
even looking at how to open it up for semi-public access.

Best,
Bob


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Joe Schulte <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have to say that what I have found is Cisco Packet Tracer is good
> through your CCNA and GNS3 will get you through your CCNP.  Once you're
> past that, rent a rack (I personally don't like it) or just buy yourself a
> rack with the intention of eating the cost or selling it off when you are
> done.
>
> I can't even begin to calculate the amount of time I've pissed away trying
> to get a fidgety little thing working for the sake of saving a few hundred
> dollars here and there - and all the way through, when something didn't
> work the way I had expected, I could never be certain if it was a mistake
> in the material, a mistake on my part, or another quirk of GNS3 that I had
> just discovered.
>
> And on a similar area, don't try to cheap out by buying switches for L2
> and using GNS3 for L3 while convincing yourself that you can work on each
> separately. Terrible idea.
>
> Think of it this way - fail once by studying with a cheap method and you
> could have bought a physical rack with that money you just threw away on
> the exam.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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