Except for the lack of Catalyst! Unless you know something I don't. L2IOU has many shortcomings, even if they include that build.
Bob -- Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any typos. On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote: There is a product called VIRL (Virtual Internet Routing Labs) coming out of Cisco soon that will be suitable for CCIE-level studies. -- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Jason Aarons <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd like to see IOL (IOS on Linux) be licensed for studying. I study at > home in Florida and the electrical and cooling costs are real dollars. > > I've been running GNS3 in Hybrid Mode with 3 QuadFE (AEI-P403c) nics and > physical 2811s/3550/3560/3750s doing basic labs for the last month. Seems > 0.8.4 is pretty stable, but still has caveats sometimes. > > I have to agree real hardware is the best, however it's nice that my Lenovo > T420s laptop can run a small 5-8 router training lab if needed. I too have > spent some time learing the ins/outs of GNS3 that I would have rather spent > time on other learning! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob McCouch > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:47 AM > To: Joe Schulte > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 92, Issue 9 > > There's a lot of wisdom here. > > I ended up building a hybrid rack using just Dynagen/Dynamips (not GNS3) > along with 3560 switches and even a couple of 1841's for a bit of real kit, > but I still spent several days over the course of two years messing with > it. > I found the 37XX serial drivers to be wonky, so had to rework all my topos > for 7200s. Found OSPF to be glitchy on the BBs when using a 2691 image for > them, had to back them down to 3640s and rework the configs. > Would often (esp in TS scenarios) be unsure if an issue I was seeing was > definitely Dynamips, or if it was an injected fault. I upgraded my Ubuntu > server one time and that flipped the VLAN offload default and my lab was > broken for like 3 days until I figured that one out. And there were still > artifacts from the hybrid setup in my labs (notably Port Security would > always catch me because the break-out switch's MAC would be seen on ports > as > well as the conneted device). > > I just happened to be looking on eBay last night, and with 3560s in the > US$200 range and 2611XMs (capable of the 12.4(15)T14 load used in the lab > exam [as of 6 months ago]) going for about US$60-80, and even 1841's > attainable for US$80-100 if you're patient, the cost of building a physical > lab is not all that much. At least for those in the US making a decent > wage. > I realize the picture can be much different elsewhere in the world. > > I'm a big fan for a quality virtual lab, and I still use GNS3 for some > functions day-to-day, and I'm also *really* looking forward to Cisco VIRL, > but for intense, focused study like for the CCIE lab consider making the > investment in yourself. I still use my lab pretty regularly for switching > experiments. I can't bring myself to sell it off. Instead, I've beefed it > up > with an ASA, a small wireless controller, a few access points, and I'm even > looking at how to open it up for semi-public access. > > Best, > Bob > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Joe Schulte <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I have to say that what I have found is Cisco Packet Tracer is good > > through your CCNA and GNS3 will get you through your CCNP. Once > > you're past that, rent a rack (I personally don't like it) or just buy > > yourself a rack with the intention of eating the cost or selling it > > off when you are done. > > > > I can't even begin to calculate the amount of time I've pissed away > > trying to get a fidgety little thing working for the sake of saving a > > few hundred dollars here and there - and all the way through, when > > something didn't work the way I had expected, I could never be certain > > if it was a mistake in the material, a mistake on my part, or another > > quirk of GNS3 that I had just discovered. > > > > And on a similar area, don't try to cheap out by buying switches for > > L2 and using GNS3 for L3 while convincing yourself that you can work > > on each separately. Terrible idea. > > > > Think of it this way - fail once by studying with a cheap method and > > you could have bought a physical rack with that money you just threw > > away on the exam. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? 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