That would match anything, question was for icmp

Put another classifier in to match icmp any any the default class-map match-all 
is required.

Don't forget a second route-map sequence to permit.

--
BR

Tony

Sent from my iPhone on 3

> On 9 Oct 2013, at 15:47, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I knew I typed that a bit too quick.y
> 
> Make that "match packet len min 400 max 600"
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> class-map YYY
>> match packet min 400 max 600
>> 
>> route-map XXX
>> class YYY
>> drop
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Ryan Krcelic <[email protected]>wrote:
>> 
>>> How exactly are your dropping the traffic?  route-maps don't have a
>>> "drop" feature, you just set the interface to null0.
>>> 
>>> If you are using a route-map to reference an access-list, then remember
>>> that the ACL that is referenced is used only to fullfill the requirements
>>> of the route-map, not to permit or deny the traffic.
>>> 
>>> An ACL could also be used, but you have to watch out for restrictions on
>>> the questions.
>>> V/r,
>>> 
>>> Ryan Krcelic
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Alright so I'm running through lab book 2 in prep for my lab in 33 days.
>>>> Small things are starting to make me wonder if my solutions are wrong or
>>>> if
>>>> I'm just not doing it the way that the author did it, so I'm probably be
>>>> going to asking for opinions from the folks out in mailing list land.
>>>> 
>>>> Question the first: "Drop ICMP packets inbound between sizes X and Y".
>>>> 
>>>> Pretty obvious. Route-map check sizes and then does a drop if packet size
>>>> is between X and Y. Put it in, seems to work just fine. Then I'm going
>>>> through the DSG and checking my answers and I see that the solution
>>>> doesn't
>>>> use drop it uses "set interface null 0".
>>>> 
>>>> Is one solution more right than the other? Or are the both viable and I'm
>>>> being overly cautious?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:49 PM, <[email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   1. Re: CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List ([email protected])
>>>>>   2. Re: CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List (Hesham Abdelkereem)
>>>>>   3. Re: CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List (Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana)
>>>>>   4. Re: CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List (Hesham Abdelkereem)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:55:38 -0300
>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>> To: Hesham Abdelkereem <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List
>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We'll in my humble opinion, I preffer kick ass IPExpert workbooks for
>>>> over
>>>>> IN* ones.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why? simple...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Technology focus over and over again in the IPExpert wb, on the other
>>>>> vendor the deployment of the workbook is just confuse ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again is my humble opinion
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Edgar
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 07-10-2013, at 21:41, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for your great contribution. I just would like to clarify why
>>>> do
>>>>> we have 9 routers + 3 2621 Backbone
>>>>>> INE is just 6 Router + 3 Backbones that gives total of 9 routers all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hahaha It got me confused now , Now I don't know which is better
>>>>> topology IPX or INE?
>>>>>> I know that owners here may get mad at me because I mentioned INE
>>>> but in
>>>>> all cases I am not promoting them or market their product so I should
>>>> be
>>>>> fine:).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 17:35, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> as in ipexpert lab workbooks, you need
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1x26x1xm router (Access Server)
>>>>>>> 3x26x1xm routers (BACK BONE)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 4xCAT3560-24TS-S
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 7x2811 Routers
>>>>>>> 1x3825/3845 Router
>>>>>>> 1x2611/2800 series with almost 1 NM Slot/3620/3640/3660 as Frame
>>>> relay
>>>>> switch (R3)
>>>>>>> 1x2801 Router as R9
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> if you like to play with udld you need 2xSFP-SX-MM with a multimode
>>>>> lc-lc patch to connect between CAT1 to R2 (gig0/1-Gig0/1)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that's my contribution!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> best regards.!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>> Still #unnumbered!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The training vendors usually are very close to the real lab as
>>>> well.
>>>>>>>> I used INE for Voice stuff and all the equipment and modules are
>>>> same
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> the real lab the only difference was the routers itself.
>>>>>>>> I am not intending to breach NDA or asking for the exam content
>>>> itself
>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> as questions , answers , usernames , ip addresses or passwords but
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> thing is the Blueprint is not clear at all about the modules.
>>>>>>>> In the Voice track blueprint it was more clear about the T1/E1
>>>> modules
>>>>>>>> needs to be used in the test but in R/S scenario they just give a
>>>> very
>>>>>>>> little information.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 12:37, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Pick the topology for the training vendor you're using and build
>>>> to
>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The exact topology and models in use in the real lab are not
>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>> their entirety. If someone gives you an exact list for the real
>>>> lab,
>>>>>>>>> they're lying or violating NDA.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Experts,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I just would like to know the CCE R/S V4 Lab Equipment
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I know for fact if I am not mistaken it should be
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 6X CISCO 1841 Routers
>>>>>>>>>> 3X CISCO 3825 Routers for Backbone
>>>>>>>>>> 4X Catalyst 3560 Switches 3560-24TS-S
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I already read this link
>>>> http://www.ine.com/downloads/routing_switching_rack_rental_hardware_specification_v1.2.pdf
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But I would like to make the lab as close to the real V4 lab as
>>>>> much as
>>>>>>>>>> possible for better and speedy strategy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to know in detail how many WIC-1T should be
>>>> installed
>>>>> and how
>>>>>>>>>> about the Backbone do they use WIC-1T or NM-4A/S
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am just newbie but it would be good to start build the lab as
>>>> it
>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> ease the studies.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Hesham
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab
>>>> training,
>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>>>>>>>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:59:10 -0700
>>>>> From: Hesham Abdelkereem <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>        <CAA-UhVErRUT9gpaxBi3o==
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any opinion should be respected even if its against IPX:) its free of
>>>>> speech and we don't make any bad talks about anyone.
>>>>> We are not in jail here:) we can speak any say our opinion freeily.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks brother have you ever made any attempts?
>>>>> I wish you all success.
>>>>> I am CCNA and NP routing and switching but I dont have extensive
>>>> hands-on
>>>>> experience on routing , IPV6 , BGP , MPLS , OSPF and that stuff.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hesham
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 18:55, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We'll in my humble opinion, I preffer kick ass IPExpert workbooks for
>>>>> over
>>>>>> IN* ones.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why? simple...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Technology focus over and over again in the IPExpert wb, on the other
>>>>>> vendor the deployment of the workbook is just confuse ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Again is my humble opinion
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 07-10-2013, at 21:41, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for your great contribution. I just would like to clarify why
>>>> do
>>>>> we
>>>>>> have 9 routers + 3 2621 Backbone
>>>>>> INE is just 6 Router + 3 Backbones that gives total of 9 routers all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hahaha It got me confused now , Now I don't know which is better
>>>> topology
>>>>>> IPX or INE?
>>>>>> I know that owners here may get mad at me because I mentioned INE
>>>> but in
>>>>>> all cases I am not promoting them or market their product so I
>>>> should be
>>>>>> fine:).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 17:35, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> as in ipexpert lab workbooks, you need
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1x26x1xm router (Access Server)
>>>>>>> 3x26x1xm routers (BACK BONE)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 4xCAT3560-24TS-S
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 7x2811 Routers
>>>>>>> 1x3825/3845 Router
>>>>>>> 1x2611/2800 series with almost 1 NM Slot/3620/3640/3660 as Frame
>>>> relay
>>>>>>> switch (R3)
>>>>>>> 1x2801 Router as R9
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> if you like to play with udld you need 2xSFP-SX-MM with a multimode
>>>>> lc-lc
>>>>>>> patch to connect between CAT1 to R2 (gig0/1-Gig0/1)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that's my contribution!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> best regards.!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>> Still #unnumbered!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The training vendors usually are very close to the real lab as
>>>> well.
>>>>>>>> I used INE for Voice stuff and all the equipment and modules are
>>>> same
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> the real lab the only difference was the routers itself.
>>>>>>>> I am not intending to breach NDA or asking for the exam content
>>>> itself
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> as questions , answers , usernames , ip addresses or passwords but
>>>> the
>>>>>>>> thing is the Blueprint is not clear at all about the modules.
>>>>>>>> In the Voice track blueprint it was more clear about the T1/E1
>>>> modules
>>>>>>>> needs to be used in the test but in R/S scenario they just give a
>>>> very
>>>>>>>> little information.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 12:37, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Pick the topology for the training vendor you're using and build
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The exact topology and models in use in the real lab are not
>>>>> published
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> their entirety. If someone gives you an exact list for the real
>>>> lab,
>>>>>>>>> they're lying or violating NDA.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Experts,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I just would like to know the CCE R/S V4 Lab Equipment
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I know for fact if I am not mistaken it should be
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 6X CISCO 1841 Routers
>>>>>>>>>> 3X CISCO 3825 Routers for Backbone
>>>>>>>>>> 4X Catalyst 3560 Switches 3560-24TS-S
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I already read this link
>>>> http://www.ine.com/downloads/routing_switching_rack_rental_hardware_specification_v1.2.pdf
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But I would like to make the lab as close to the real V4 lab as
>>>> much
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> possible for better and speedy strategy.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to know in detail how many WIC-1T should be
>>>> installed
>>>>>>>> and how
>>>>>>>>>> about the Backbone do they use WIC-1T or NM-4A/S
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am just newbie but it would be good to start build the lab as
>>>> it
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> ease the studies.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Hesham
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab
>>>> training,
>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>>>>>>>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>>>>>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>>>>>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:34:19 -0300
>>>>> From: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: Hesham Abdelkereem <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>        <CAP_QRV68_CO8pOHSoXKzuu4Lvcwf=
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi hesham.
>>>>> 
>>>>> as i found... in my development of network engineer... the lab is just
>>>> a
>>>>> preparation of what you could found in the real world... even some
>>>> labs are
>>>>> so difficult and messy than appears to be a real working environment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> i had some friends within i exchange some experience and point of view
>>>> of
>>>>> some problems, we had some brain storming together and found another
>>>> view
>>>>> of some problem or solution for a defined problem..
>>>>> 
>>>>> good friends are the best way to aprove an exam or pass the lab.
>>>>> 
>>>>> and don't worry, if you don't cheat to get your magic number, then
>>>> you'll
>>>>> improve so damn good, than if someone just figureout asking about what
>>>> is a
>>>>> shamlink you could answer even with the RFC with what chapter and what
>>>> line
>>>>> in that chapter talks about this feature on the OSPF protocol.
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS: For those are wondering what is a sham link just check RFC 4577
>>>> OSPFv2
>>>>> and go to chapter 4.2.7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> best regards.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Edgar
>>>>> Still #unnumbered
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any opinion should be respected even if its against IPX:) its free of
>>>>>> speech and we don't make any bad talks about anyone.
>>>>>> We are not in jail here:) we can speak any say our opinion freeily.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks brother have you ever made any attempts?
>>>>>> I wish you all success.
>>>>>> I am CCNA and NP routing and switching but I dont have extensive
>>>> hands-on
>>>>>> experience on routing , IPV6 , BGP , MPLS , OSPF and that stuff.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Hesham
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 18:55, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We'll in my humble opinion, I preffer kick ass IPExpert workbooks
>>>> for
>>>>>>> over IN* ones.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why? simple...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Technology focus over and over again in the IPExpert wb, on the
>>>> other
>>>>>>> vendor the deployment of the workbook is just confuse ...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Again is my humble opinion
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 07-10-2013, at 21:41, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for your great contribution. I just would like to clarify
>>>> why do
>>>>>>> we have 9 routers + 3 2621 Backbone
>>>>>>> INE is just 6 Router + 3 Backbones that gives total of 9 routers
>>>> all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hahaha It got me confused now , Now I don't know which is better
>>>>> topology
>>>>>>> IPX or INE?
>>>>>>> I know that owners here may get mad at me because I mentioned INE
>>>> but in
>>>>>>> all cases I am not promoting them or market their product so I
>>>> should be
>>>>>>> fine:).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 17:35, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> as in ipexpert lab workbooks, you need
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1x26x1xm router (Access Server)
>>>>>>>> 3x26x1xm routers (BACK BONE)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 4xCAT3560-24TS-S
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 7x2811 Routers
>>>>>>>> 1x3825/3845 Router
>>>>>>>> 1x2611/2800 series with almost 1 NM Slot/3620/3640/3660 as Frame
>>>> relay
>>>>>>>> switch (R3)
>>>>>>>> 1x2801 Router as R9
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> if you like to play with udld you need 2xSFP-SX-MM with a multimode
>>>>>>>> lc-lc patch to connect between CAT1 to R2 (gig0/1-Gig0/1)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> that's my contribution!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> best regards.!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>>> Still #unnumbered!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The training vendors usually are very close to the real lab as
>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>> I used INE for Voice stuff and all the equipment and modules are
>>>> same
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> the real lab the only difference was the routers itself.
>>>>>>>>> I am not intending to breach NDA or asking for the exam content
>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>> as questions , answers , usernames , ip addresses or passwords
>>>> but the
>>>>>>>>> thing is the Blueprint is not clear at all about the modules.
>>>>>>>>> In the Voice track blueprint it was more clear about the T1/E1
>>>> modules
>>>>>>>>> needs to be used in the test but in R/S scenario they just give a
>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> little information.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 12:37, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Pick the topology for the training vendor you're using and
>>>> build to
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The exact topology and models in use in the real lab are not
>>>>>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>>> their entirety. If someone gives you an exact list for the real
>>>> lab,
>>>>>>>>>> they're lying or violating NDA.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Experts,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I just would like to know the CCE R/S V4 Lab Equipment
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I know for fact if I am not mistaken it should be
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 6X CISCO 1841 Routers
>>>>>>>>>>> 3X CISCO 3825 Routers for Backbone
>>>>>>>>>>> 4X Catalyst 3560 Switches 3560-24TS-S
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I already read this link
>>>> http://www.ine.com/downloads/routing_switching_rack_rental_hardware_specification_v1.2.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> But I would like to make the lab as close to the real V4 lab as
>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> possible for better and speedy strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to know in detail how many WIC-1T should be
>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>> and how
>>>>>>>>>>> about the Backbone do they use WIC-1T or NM-4A/S
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I am just newbie but it would be good to start build the lab
>>>> as it
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> ease the studies.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Hesham
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab
>>>> training,
>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>>>>>>>>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>>>>>>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>>>>>>>>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:49:02 -0700
>>>>> From: Hesham Abdelkereem <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>        <
>>>>> caa-uhvebewj_+qweowpdcvpgs4ph5-pryjpi0317dgeypvn...@mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got the magic number but not R/S its Voice :)
>>>>> Now I'm trying to purse the R/S track. Actually the main purpose
>>>> behind it
>>>>> is to learn the technology in depth and not the certification to be
>>>> honest
>>>>> with you.
>>>>> Many people can get it without any knowledge and that workbooks that
>>>> has
>>>>> the real labs are available and many people just memorize it but thats
>>>> not
>>>>> me.
>>>>> I can't memorize anything at all , I have a very bad memory. If I was a
>>>>> memorizer , I would always get A+ in my academic life at the university
>>>>> previously and I never got A+ once in my life:).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can tell u with confidence back in 2010 I got a colleague who doesn't
>>>>> know what is the core layers of switching , STP , VTP , Multicast ,
>>>> IGMP
>>>>> and etc. and 1 year and half later he is CCIE R/S. I am serious and I
>>>>> worked with that guy directly and my judgement was based on his work
>>>> when
>>>>> he configured the switches.
>>>>> He configured the switches and he doesn't know whats is the core
>>>> switch ,
>>>>> distribution layer and edge layer . I found all switches has default
>>>>> priority and didnt even connect the switches properly and there was an
>>>> IPTV
>>>>> system in place and didn't configure IGMP immediate leave on edge and
>>>> IGMP
>>>>> querier on the core.
>>>>> Even he doesn't know whats the difference between STP , RSTP MST and
>>>> etc..
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7 October 2013 20:34, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi hesham.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> as i found... in my development of network engineer... the lab is
>>>> just a
>>>>>> preparation of what you could found in the real world... even some
>>>> labs
>>>>> are
>>>>>> so difficult and messy than appears to be a real working environment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i had some friends within i exchange some experience and point of
>>>> view of
>>>>>> some problems, we had some brain storming together and found another
>>>> view
>>>>>> of some problem or solution for a defined problem..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> good friends are the best way to aprove an exam or pass the lab.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and don't worry, if you don't cheat to get your magic number, then
>>>> you'll
>>>>>> improve so damn good, than if someone just figureout asking about
>>>> what
>>>>> is a
>>>>>> shamlink you could answer even with the RFC with what chapter and
>>>> what
>>>>> line
>>>>>> in that chapter talks about this feature on the OSPF protocol.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PS: For those are wondering what is a sham link just check RFC 4577
>>>>> OSPFv2
>>>>>> and go to chapter 4.2.7.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> best regards.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>> Still #unnumbered
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any opinion should be respected even if its against IPX:) its free
>>>> of
>>>>>>> speech and we don't make any bad talks about anyone.
>>>>>>> We are not in jail here:) we can speak any say our opinion freeily.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks brother have you ever made any attempts?
>>>>>>> I wish you all success.
>>>>>>> I am CCNA and NP routing and switching but I dont have extensive
>>>>> hands-on
>>>>>>> experience on routing , IPV6 , BGP , MPLS , OSPF and that stuff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Hesham
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 18:55, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We'll in my humble opinion, I preffer kick ass IPExpert workbooks
>>>> for
>>>>>>>> over IN* ones.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why? simple...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Technology focus over and over again in the IPExpert wb, on the
>>>> other
>>>>>>>> vendor the deployment of the workbook is just confuse ...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Again is my humble opinion
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 07-10-2013, at 21:41, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Edgar,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your great contribution. I just would like to clarify
>>>> why do
>>>>>>>> we have 9 routers + 3 2621 Backbone
>>>>>>>> INE is just 6 Router + 3 Backbones that gives total of 9 routers
>>>> all.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hahaha It got me confused now , Now I don't know which is better
>>>>>>>> topology IPX or INE?
>>>>>>>> I know that owners here may get mad at me because I mentioned INE
>>>> but
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> all cases I am not promoting them or market their product so I
>>>> should
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> fine:).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 17:35, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> as in ipexpert lab workbooks, you need
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 1x26x1xm router (Access Server)
>>>>>>>>> 3x26x1xm routers (BACK BONE)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4xCAT3560-24TS-S
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 7x2811 Routers
>>>>>>>>> 1x3825/3845 Router
>>>>>>>>> 1x2611/2800 series with almost 1 NM Slot/3620/3640/3660 as Frame
>>>> relay
>>>>>>>>> switch (R3)
>>>>>>>>> 1x2801 Router as R9
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> if you like to play with udld you need 2xSFP-SX-MM with a
>>>> multimode
>>>>>>>>> lc-lc patch to connect between CAT1 to R2 (gig0/1-Gig0/1)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> that's my contribution!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> best regards.!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>>>> Still #unnumbered!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The training vendors usually are very close to the real lab as
>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>> I used INE for Voice stuff and all the equipment and modules are
>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> the real lab the only difference was the routers itself.
>>>>>>>>>> I am not intending to breach NDA or asking for the exam content
>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>> as questions , answers , usernames , ip addresses or passwords
>>>> but
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> thing is the Blueprint is not clear at all about the modules.
>>>>>>>>>> In the Voice track blueprint it was more clear about the T1/E1
>>>>> modules
>>>>>>>>>> needs to be used in the test but in R/S scenario they just give a
>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> little information.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 October 2013 12:37, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Pick the topology for the training vendor you're using and
>>>> build to
>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The exact topology and models in use in the real lab are not
>>>>>>>>>> published in
>>>>>>>>>>> their entirety. If someone gives you an exact list for the real
>>>>> lab,
>>>>>>>>>>> they're lying or violating NDA.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Experts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just would like to know the CCE R/S V4 Lab Equipment
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know for fact if I am not mistaken it should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6X CISCO 1841 Routers
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3X CISCO 3825 Routers for Backbone
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4X Catalyst 3560 Switches 3560-24TS-S
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I already read this link
>>>> http://www.ine.com/downloads/routing_switching_rack_rental_hardware_specification_v1.2.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I would like to make the lab as close to the real V4 lab
>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> much as
>>>>>>>>>>>> possible for better and speedy strategy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to know in detail how many WIC-1T should be
>>>> installed
>>>>>>>>>> and how
>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Backbone do they use WIC-1T or NM-4A/S
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am just newbie but it would be good to start build the lab
>>>> as it
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> ease the studies.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hesham
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