You can use or

policy-map with clause drop within class definined previous

or route-map with set some interface null0.
In my opinion are same thing the thing important is condition are met.






On Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 04:47 PM, Joe S wrote:
> I knew I typed that a bit too quick.y
> 
> Make that "match packet len min 400 max 600"
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > class-map YYY
> > match packet min 400 max 600
> >
> > route-map XXX
> > class YYY
> > drop
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Ryan Krcelic <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> How exactly are your dropping the traffic?  route-maps don't have a
> >> "drop" feature, you just set the interface to null0.
> >>
> >> If you are using a route-map to reference an access-list, then remember
> >> that the ACL that is referenced is used only to fullfill the requirements
> >> of the route-map, not to permit or deny the traffic.
> >>
> >> An ACL could also be used, but you have to watch out for restrictions on
> >> the questions.
> >>  V/r,
> >>
> >> Ryan Krcelic
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Joe S <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Alright so I'm running through lab book 2 in prep for my lab in 33 days.
> >>> Small things are starting to make me wonder if my solutions are wrong or
> >>> if
> >>> I'm just not doing it the way that the author did it, so I'm probably be
> >>> going to asking for opinions from the folks out in mailing list land.
> >>>
> >>> Question the first: "Drop ICMP packets inbound between sizes X and Y".
> >>>
> >>> Pretty obvious. Route-map check sizes and then does a drop if packet size
> >>> is between X and Y. Put it in, seems to work just fine. Then I'm going
> >>> through the DSG and checking my answers and I see that the solution
> >>> doesn't
> >>> use drop it uses "set interface null 0".
> >>>
> >>> Is one solution more right than the other? Or are the both viable and I'm
> >>> being overly cautious?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:49 PM, <[email protected]
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
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> >>> >
> >>> >    1. Re: CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List ([email protected])
> >>> >    2. Re: CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List (Hesham Abdelkereem)
> >>> >    3. Re: CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List (Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana)
> >>> >    4. Re: CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List (Hesham Abdelkereem)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >
> >>> > Message: 1
> >>> > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 22:55:38 -0300
> >>> > From: [email protected]
> >>> > To: Hesham Abdelkereem <[email protected]>
> >>> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List
> >>> > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >>> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=us-ascii
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi again.
> >>> >
> >>> > We'll in my humble opinion, I preffer kick ass IPExpert workbooks for
> >>> over
> >>> > IN* ones.
> >>> >
> >>> > Why? simple...
> >>> >
> >>> > Technology focus over and over again in the IPExpert wb, on the other
> >>> > vendor the deployment of the workbook is just confuse ...
> >>> >
> >>> > Again is my humble opinion
> >>> >
> >>> > Best regards
> >>> >
> >>> > Edgar
> >>> >
> >>> > Sent from my iPhone
> >>> >
> >>> > > On 07-10-2013, at 21:41, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Hi Edgar,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks for your great contribution. I just would like to clarify why
> >>> do
> >>> > we have 9 routers + 3 2621 Backbone
> >>> > > INE is just 6 Router + 3 Backbones that gives total of 9 routers all.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Hahaha It got me confused now , Now I don't know which is better
> >>> > topology IPX or INE?
> >>> > > I know that owners here may get mad at me because I mentioned INE
> >>> but in
> >>> > all cases I am not promoting them or market their product so I should
> >>> be
> >>> > fine:).
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> On 7 October 2013 17:35, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
> >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >> as in ipexpert lab workbooks, you need
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> 1x26x1xm router (Access Server)
> >>> > >> 3x26x1xm routers (BACK BONE)
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> 4xCAT3560-24TS-S
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> 7x2811 Routers
> >>> > >> 1x3825/3845 Router
> >>> > >> 1x2611/2800 series with almost 1 NM Slot/3620/3640/3660 as Frame
> >>> relay
> >>> > switch (R3)
> >>> > >> 1x2801 Router as R9
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> if you like to play with udld you need 2xSFP-SX-MM with a multimode
> >>> > lc-lc patch to connect between CAT1 to R2 (gig0/1-Gig0/1)
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> that's my contribution!
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> best regards.!
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Edgar
> >>> > >> Still #unnumbered!
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>> The training vendors usually are very close to the real lab as
> >>> well.
> >>> > >>> I used INE for Voice stuff and all the equipment and modules are
> >>> same
> >>> > as
> >>> > >>> the real lab the only difference was the routers itself.
> >>> > >>> I am not intending to breach NDA or asking for the exam content
> >>> itself
> >>> > such
> >>> > >>> as questions , answers , usernames , ip addresses or passwords but
> >>> the
> >>> > >>> thing is the Blueprint is not clear at all about the modules.
> >>> > >>> In the Voice track blueprint it was more clear about the T1/E1
> >>> modules
> >>> > >>> needs to be used in the test but in R/S scenario they just give a
> >>> very
> >>> > >>> little information.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On 7 October 2013 12:37, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> > Pick the topology for the training vendor you're using and build
> >>> to
> >>> > that.
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > The exact topology and models in use in the real lab are not
> >>> > published in
> >>> > >>> > their entirety. If someone gives you an exact list for the real
> >>> lab,
> >>> > >>> > they're lying or violating NDA.
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >> Dear Experts,
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I just would like to know the CCE R/S V4 Lab Equipment
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I know for fact if I am not mistaken it should be
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> 6X CISCO 1841 Routers
> >>> > >>> >> 3X CISCO 3825 Routers for Backbone
> >>> > >>> >> 4X Catalyst 3560 Switches 3560-24TS-S
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I already read this link
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.ine.com/downloads/routing_switching_rack_rental_hardware_specification_v1.2.pdf
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> But I would like to make the lab as close to the real V4 lab as
> >>> > much as
> >>> > >>> >> possible for better and speedy strategy.
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I would like to know in detail how many WIC-1T should be
> >>> installed
> >>> > and how
> >>> > >>> >> about the Backbone do they use WIC-1T or NM-4A/S
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I am just newbie but it would be good to start build the lab as
> >>> it
> >>> > will
> >>> > >>> >> ease the studies.
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> Many Thanks,
> >>> > >>> >> Hesham
> >>> > >>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab
> >>> training,
> >>> > please
> >>> > >>> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> >>> > >>> >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> >>> > please visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> >>> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ------------------------------
> >>> >
> >>> > Message: 2
> >>> > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:59:10 -0700
> >>> > From: Hesham Abdelkereem <[email protected]>
> >>> > To: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]>
> >>> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List
> >>> > Message-ID:
> >>> >         <CAA-UhVErRUT9gpaxBi3o==
> >>> > [email protected]>
> >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>> >
> >>> > Any opinion should be respected even if its against IPX:) its free of
> >>> > speech and we don't make any bad talks about anyone.
> >>> > We are not in jail here:) we can speak any say our opinion freeily.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks brother have you ever made any attempts?
> >>> > I wish you all success.
> >>> > I am CCNA and NP routing and switching but I dont have extensive
> >>> hands-on
> >>> > experience on routing , IPV6 , BGP , MPLS , OSPF and that stuff.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Hesham
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 7 October 2013 18:55, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Hi again.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > We'll in my humble opinion, I preffer kick ass IPExpert workbooks for
> >>> > over
> >>> > > IN* ones.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Why? simple...
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Technology focus over and over again in the IPExpert wb, on the other
> >>> > > vendor the deployment of the workbook is just confuse ...
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Again is my humble opinion
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Best regards
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Edgar
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Sent from my iPhone
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 07-10-2013, at 21:41, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Hi Edgar,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks for your great contribution. I just would like to clarify why
> >>> do
> >>> > we
> >>> > > have 9 routers + 3 2621 Backbone
> >>> > > INE is just 6 Router + 3 Backbones that gives total of 9 routers all.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Hahaha It got me confused now , Now I don't know which is better
> >>> topology
> >>> > > IPX or INE?
> >>> > > I know that owners here may get mad at me because I mentioned INE
> >>> but in
> >>> > > all cases I am not promoting them or market their product so I
> >>> should be
> >>> > > fine:).
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 7 October 2013 17:35, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
> >>> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> as in ipexpert lab workbooks, you need
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> 1x26x1xm router (Access Server)
> >>> > >> 3x26x1xm routers (BACK BONE)
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> 4xCAT3560-24TS-S
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> 7x2811 Routers
> >>> > >> 1x3825/3845 Router
> >>> > >> 1x2611/2800 series with almost 1 NM Slot/3620/3640/3660 as Frame
> >>> relay
> >>> > >> switch (R3)
> >>> > >> 1x2801 Router as R9
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> if you like to play with udld you need 2xSFP-SX-MM with a multimode
> >>> > lc-lc
> >>> > >> patch to connect between CAT1 to R2 (gig0/1-Gig0/1)
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> that's my contribution!
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> best regards.!
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Edgar
> >>> > >> Still #unnumbered!
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> The training vendors usually are very close to the real lab as
> >>> well.
> >>> > >>> I used INE for Voice stuff and all the equipment and modules are
> >>> same
> >>> > as
> >>> > >>> the real lab the only difference was the routers itself.
> >>> > >>> I am not intending to breach NDA or asking for the exam content
> >>> itself
> >>> > >>> such
> >>> > >>> as questions , answers , usernames , ip addresses or passwords but
> >>> the
> >>> > >>> thing is the Blueprint is not clear at all about the modules.
> >>> > >>> In the Voice track blueprint it was more clear about the T1/E1
> >>> modules
> >>> > >>> needs to be used in the test but in R/S scenario they just give a
> >>> very
> >>> > >>> little information.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On 7 October 2013 12:37, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> > Pick the topology for the training vendor you're using and build
> >>> to
> >>> > >>> that.
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > The exact topology and models in use in the real lab are not
> >>> > published
> >>> > >>> in
> >>> > >>> > their entirety. If someone gives you an exact list for the real
> >>> lab,
> >>> > >>> > they're lying or violating NDA.
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >> Dear Experts,
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I just would like to know the CCE R/S V4 Lab Equipment
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I know for fact if I am not mistaken it should be
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> 6X CISCO 1841 Routers
> >>> > >>> >> 3X CISCO 3825 Routers for Backbone
> >>> > >>> >> 4X Catalyst 3560 Switches 3560-24TS-S
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I already read this link
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.ine.com/downloads/routing_switching_rack_rental_hardware_specification_v1.2.pdf
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> But I would like to make the lab as close to the real V4 lab as
> >>> much
> >>> > >>> as
> >>> > >>> >> possible for better and speedy strategy.
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I would like to know in detail how many WIC-1T should be
> >>> installed
> >>> > >>> and how
> >>> > >>> >> about the Backbone do they use WIC-1T or NM-4A/S
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> I am just newbie but it would be good to start build the lab as
> >>> it
> >>> > >>> will
> >>> > >>> >> ease the studies.
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> Many Thanks,
> >>> > >>> >> Hesham
> >>> > >>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab
> >>> training,
> >>> > >>> please
> >>> > >>> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> >>> > >>> >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> >>> > >>> >>
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> >>> > >>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> >>> > >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ------------------------------
> >>> >
> >>> > Message: 3
> >>> > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:34:19 -0300
> >>> > From: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]>
> >>> > To: Hesham Abdelkereem <[email protected]>
> >>> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List
> >>> > Message-ID:
> >>> >         <CAP_QRV68_CO8pOHSoXKzuu4Lvcwf=
> >>> > [email protected]>
> >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi hesham.
> >>> >
> >>> > as i found... in my development of network engineer... the lab is just
> >>> a
> >>> > preparation of what you could found in the real world... even some
> >>> labs are
> >>> > so difficult and messy than appears to be a real working environment.
> >>> >
> >>> > i had some friends within i exchange some experience and point of view
> >>> of
> >>> > some problems, we had some brain storming together and found another
> >>> view
> >>> > of some problem or solution for a defined problem..
> >>> >
> >>> > good friends are the best way to aprove an exam or pass the lab.
> >>> >
> >>> > and don't worry, if you don't cheat to get your magic number, then
> >>> you'll
> >>> > improve so damn good, than if someone just figureout asking about what
> >>> is a
> >>> > shamlink you could answer even with the RFC with what chapter and what
> >>> line
> >>> > in that chapter talks about this feature on the OSPF protocol.
> >>> >
> >>> > PS: For those are wondering what is a sham link just check RFC 4577
> >>> OSPFv2
> >>> > and go to chapter 4.2.7.
> >>> >
> >>> > best regards.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Edgar
> >>> > Still #unnumbered
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Any opinion should be respected even if its against IPX:) its free of
> >>> > > speech and we don't make any bad talks about anyone.
> >>> > > We are not in jail here:) we can speak any say our opinion freeily.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks brother have you ever made any attempts?
> >>> > > I wish you all success.
> >>> > > I am CCNA and NP routing and switching but I dont have extensive
> >>> hands-on
> >>> > > experience on routing , IPV6 , BGP , MPLS , OSPF and that stuff.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks,
> >>> > > Hesham
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 7 October 2013 18:55, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> Hi again.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> We'll in my humble opinion, I preffer kick ass IPExpert workbooks
> >>> for
> >>> > >> over IN* ones.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Why? simple...
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Technology focus over and over again in the IPExpert wb, on the
> >>> other
> >>> > >> vendor the deployment of the workbook is just confuse ...
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Again is my humble opinion
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Best regards
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Edgar
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 07-10-2013, at 21:41, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > >> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Hi Edgar,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Thanks for your great contribution. I just would like to clarify
> >>> why do
> >>> > >> we have 9 routers + 3 2621 Backbone
> >>> > >> INE is just 6 Router + 3 Backbones that gives total of 9 routers
> >>> all.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Hahaha It got me confused now , Now I don't know which is better
> >>> > topology
> >>> > >> IPX or INE?
> >>> > >> I know that owners here may get mad at me because I mentioned INE
> >>> but in
> >>> > >> all cases I am not promoting them or market their product so I
> >>> should be
> >>> > >> fine:).
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 7 October 2013 17:35, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
> >>> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> as in ipexpert lab workbooks, you need
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> 1x26x1xm router (Access Server)
> >>> > >>> 3x26x1xm routers (BACK BONE)
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> 4xCAT3560-24TS-S
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> 7x2811 Routers
> >>> > >>> 1x3825/3845 Router
> >>> > >>> 1x2611/2800 series with almost 1 NM Slot/3620/3640/3660 as Frame
> >>> relay
> >>> > >>> switch (R3)
> >>> > >>> 1x2801 Router as R9
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> if you like to play with udld you need 2xSFP-SX-MM with a multimode
> >>> > >>> lc-lc patch to connect between CAT1 to R2 (gig0/1-Gig0/1)
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> that's my contribution!
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> best regards.!
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Edgar
> >>> > >>> Still #unnumbered!
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>> The training vendors usually are very close to the real lab as
> >>> well.
> >>> > >>>> I used INE for Voice stuff and all the equipment and modules are
> >>> same
> >>> > as
> >>> > >>>> the real lab the only difference was the routers itself.
> >>> > >>>> I am not intending to breach NDA or asking for the exam content
> >>> itself
> >>> > >>>> such
> >>> > >>>> as questions , answers , usernames , ip addresses or passwords
> >>> but the
> >>> > >>>> thing is the Blueprint is not clear at all about the modules.
> >>> > >>>> In the Voice track blueprint it was more clear about the T1/E1
> >>> modules
> >>> > >>>> needs to be used in the test but in R/S scenario they just give a
> >>> very
> >>> > >>>> little information.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> On 7 October 2013 12:37, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> > Pick the topology for the training vendor you're using and
> >>> build to
> >>> > >>>> that.
> >>> > >>>> >
> >>> > >>>> > The exact topology and models in use in the real lab are not
> >>> > >>>> published in
> >>> > >>>> > their entirety. If someone gives you an exact list for the real
> >>> lab,
> >>> > >>>> > they're lying or violating NDA.
> >>> > >>>> >
> >>> > >>>> >
> >>> > >>>> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > >>>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>>> >
> >>> > >>>> >> Dear Experts,
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >> I just would like to know the CCE R/S V4 Lab Equipment
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >> I know for fact if I am not mistaken it should be
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >> 6X CISCO 1841 Routers
> >>> > >>>> >> 3X CISCO 3825 Routers for Backbone
> >>> > >>>> >> 4X Catalyst 3560 Switches 3560-24TS-S
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >> I already read this link
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.ine.com/downloads/routing_switching_rack_rental_hardware_specification_v1.2.pdf
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >> But I would like to make the lab as close to the real V4 lab as
> >>> > much
> >>> > >>>> as
> >>> > >>>> >> possible for better and speedy strategy.
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >> I would like to know in detail how many WIC-1T should be
> >>> installed
> >>> > >>>> and how
> >>> > >>>> >> about the Backbone do they use WIC-1T or NM-4A/S
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >> I am just newbie but it would be good to start build the lab
> >>> as it
> >>> > >>>> will
> >>> > >>>> >> ease the studies.
> >>> > >>>> >>
> >>> > >>>> >> Many Thanks,
> >>> > >>>> >> Hesham
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> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ------------------------------
> >>> >
> >>> > Message: 4
> >>> > Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 20:49:02 -0700
> >>> > From: Hesham Abdelkereem <[email protected]>
> >>> > To: Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <[email protected]>
> >>> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE R/S Lab Equipment List
> >>> > Message-ID:
> >>> >         <
> >>> > caa-uhvebewj_+qweowpdcvpgs4ph5-pryjpi0317dgeypvn...@mail.gmail.com>
> >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>> >
> >>> > I got the magic number but not R/S its Voice :)
> >>> > Now I'm trying to purse the R/S track. Actually the main purpose
> >>> behind it
> >>> > is to learn the technology in depth and not the certification to be
> >>> honest
> >>> > with you.
> >>> > Many people can get it without any knowledge and that workbooks that
> >>> has
> >>> > the real labs are available and many people just memorize it but thats
> >>> not
> >>> > me.
> >>> > I can't memorize anything at all , I have a very bad memory. If I was a
> >>> > memorizer , I would always get A+ in my academic life at the university
> >>> > previously and I never got A+ once in my life:).
> >>> >
> >>> > I can tell u with confidence back in 2010 I got a colleague who doesn't
> >>> > know what is the core layers of switching , STP , VTP , Multicast ,
> >>> IGMP
> >>> > and etc. and 1 year and half later he is CCIE R/S. I am serious and I
> >>> > worked with that guy directly and my judgement was based on his work
> >>> when
> >>> > he configured the switches.
> >>> > He configured the switches and he doesn't know whats is the core
> >>> switch ,
> >>> > distribution layer and edge layer . I found all switches has default
> >>> > priority and didnt even connect the switches properly and there was an
> >>> IPTV
> >>> > system in place and didn't configure IGMP immediate leave on edge and
> >>> IGMP
> >>> > querier on the core.
> >>> > Even he doesn't know whats the difference between STP , RSTP MST and
> >>> etc..
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 7 October 2013 20:34, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
> >>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Hi hesham.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > as i found... in my development of network engineer... the lab is
> >>> just a
> >>> > > preparation of what you could found in the real world... even some
> >>> labs
> >>> > are
> >>> > > so difficult and messy than appears to be a real working environment.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > i had some friends within i exchange some experience and point of
> >>> view of
> >>> > > some problems, we had some brain storming together and found another
> >>> view
> >>> > > of some problem or solution for a defined problem..
> >>> > >
> >>> > > good friends are the best way to aprove an exam or pass the lab.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > and don't worry, if you don't cheat to get your magic number, then
> >>> you'll
> >>> > > improve so damn good, than if someone just figureout asking about
> >>> what
> >>> > is a
> >>> > > shamlink you could answer even with the RFC with what chapter and
> >>> what
> >>> > line
> >>> > > in that chapter talks about this feature on the OSPF protocol.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > PS: For those are wondering what is a sham link just check RFC 4577
> >>> > OSPFv2
> >>> > > and go to chapter 4.2.7.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > best regards.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Edgar
> >>> > > Still #unnumbered
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> Any opinion should be respected even if its against IPX:) its free
> >>> of
> >>> > >> speech and we don't make any bad talks about anyone.
> >>> > >> We are not in jail here:) we can speak any say our opinion freeily.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Thanks brother have you ever made any attempts?
> >>> > >> I wish you all success.
> >>> > >> I am CCNA and NP routing and switching but I dont have extensive
> >>> > hands-on
> >>> > >> experience on routing , IPV6 , BGP , MPLS , OSPF and that stuff.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Thanks,
> >>> > >> Hesham
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 7 October 2013 18:55, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> Hi again.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> We'll in my humble opinion, I preffer kick ass IPExpert workbooks
> >>> for
> >>> > >>> over IN* ones.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Why? simple...
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Technology focus over and over again in the IPExpert wb, on the
> >>> other
> >>> > >>> vendor the deployment of the workbook is just confuse ...
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Again is my humble opinion
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Best regards
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Edgar
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On 07-10-2013, at 21:41, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > >>> wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Hi Edgar,
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Thanks for your great contribution. I just would like to clarify
> >>> why do
> >>> > >>> we have 9 routers + 3 2621 Backbone
> >>> > >>> INE is just 6 Router + 3 Backbones that gives total of 9 routers
> >>> all.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Hahaha It got me confused now , Now I don't know which is better
> >>> > >>> topology IPX or INE?
> >>> > >>> I know that owners here may get mad at me because I mentioned INE
> >>> but
> >>> > in
> >>> > >>> all cases I am not promoting them or market their product so I
> >>> should
> >>> > be
> >>> > >>> fine:).
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On 7 October 2013 17:35, Edgar Mauricio Diaz Orellana <
> >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>> as in ipexpert lab workbooks, you need
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> 1x26x1xm router (Access Server)
> >>> > >>>> 3x26x1xm routers (BACK BONE)
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> 4xCAT3560-24TS-S
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> 7x2811 Routers
> >>> > >>>> 1x3825/3845 Router
> >>> > >>>> 1x2611/2800 series with almost 1 NM Slot/3620/3640/3660 as Frame
> >>> relay
> >>> > >>>> switch (R3)
> >>> > >>>> 1x2801 Router as R9
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> if you like to play with udld you need 2xSFP-SX-MM with a
> >>> multimode
> >>> > >>>> lc-lc patch to connect between CAT1 to R2 (gig0/1-Gig0/1)
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> that's my contribution!
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> best regards.!
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> Edgar
> >>> > >>>> Still #unnumbered!
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>> The training vendors usually are very close to the real lab as
> >>> well.
> >>> > >>>>> I used INE for Voice stuff and all the equipment and modules are
> >>> same
> >>> > >>>>> as
> >>> > >>>>> the real lab the only difference was the routers itself.
> >>> > >>>>> I am not intending to breach NDA or asking for the exam content
> >>> > itself
> >>> > >>>>> such
> >>> > >>>>> as questions , answers , usernames , ip addresses or passwords
> >>> but
> >>> > the
> >>> > >>>>> thing is the Blueprint is not clear at all about the modules.
> >>> > >>>>> In the Voice track blueprint it was more clear about the T1/E1
> >>> > modules
> >>> > >>>>> needs to be used in the test but in R/S scenario they just give a
> >>> > very
> >>> > >>>>> little information.
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>> On 7 October 2013 12:37, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> > >>>>> > Pick the topology for the training vendor you're using and
> >>> build to
> >>> > >>>>> that.
> >>> > >>>>> >
> >>> > >>>>> > The exact topology and models in use in the real lab are not
> >>> > >>>>> published in
> >>> > >>>>> > their entirety. If someone gives you an exact list for the real
> >>> > lab,
> >>> > >>>>> > they're lying or violating NDA.
> >>> > >>>>> >
> >>> > >>>>> >
> >>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Hesham Abdelkereem <
> >>> > >>>>> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > >>>>> >
> >>> > >>>>> >> Dear Experts,
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >> I just would like to know the CCE R/S V4 Lab Equipment
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >> I know for fact if I am not mistaken it should be
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >> 6X CISCO 1841 Routers
> >>> > >>>>> >> 3X CISCO 3825 Routers for Backbone
> >>> > >>>>> >> 4X Catalyst 3560 Switches 3560-24TS-S
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >> I already read this link
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>>
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.ine.com/downloads/routing_switching_rack_rental_hardware_specification_v1.2.pdf
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >> But I would like to make the lab as close to the real V4 lab
> >>> as
> >>> > >>>>> much as
> >>> > >>>>> >> possible for better and speedy strategy.
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >> I would like to know in detail how many WIC-1T should be
> >>> installed
> >>> > >>>>> and how
> >>> > >>>>> >> about the Backbone do they use WIC-1T or NM-4A/S
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >> I am just newbie but it would be good to start build the lab
> >>> as it
> >>> > >>>>> will
> >>> > >>>>> >> ease the studies.
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >> Many Thanks,
> >>> > >>>>> >> Hesham
> >>> > >>>>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >>>>> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab
> >>> training,
> >>> > >>>>> please
> >>> > >>>>> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> >>> > >>>>> >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com <http://www.platinumplacement.com/>
> >>> > >>>>> >>
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> >>> > >>>>> >>
> >>> > >>>>> >
> >>> > >>>>> >
> >>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> training,
> >>> > >>>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>> > >>>>>
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> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > End of CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 93, Issue 8
> >>> > **************************************
> >>> >
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