No, it's NOT the CSS on the translation pattern.  It's the CSS on the GK trunk. 
 Now, if you don't understand the difference, then i would highly suggest that 
you lab it up yourself!
 
JD



Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 08:31:08 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
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So, basically what we said initially.... CSS on translation pattern...Jonathan
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Devildoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The reason why it worked when i changed to 4 digits was because i had my GK 
translation patterns in their own partition called pt-gk and the internal DNs 
in their own partition called pt-internal.  So when I configured the GK trunk 
to accept the 10 digits, I only gave its CSS access to pt-gk and not the 
pt-internal.  But when i configured it to accept 4 digits, the trunk didn't 
need to access any GK translation patterns, and therefore, I gave it access to 
pt-internal directly. JD 

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:27:25 -0500 
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Wait... why would it work when you changed the number of received digits 
then?Jonathan
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Devildoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Christian, Yes, you're right.  I just labbed it up today and it worked!  The GK 
trunk must have CSS access to the partition of the CTI route points.  The issue 
is not the CSS of the translation pattern.  It's the CSS of the GK trunk.  It's 
so weird that it's working that way.  I wonder if there is any tool that you 
can help you debug the communication to see what's going on at the lower 
layers. Normally, i would configure the GK trunk to accept only 4 digits.  
However, due to stringent requirements that mandate call routing from BR2 
phones to the HQ and BR1 PSTN area code numbers (i.e any number in 212xxxxxxx 
and 617xxxxxxx) via the GK trunk, I had to configure the trunk to accept 10 
digits.  If I configured only 4 significant digits, then that would break the 
requirements. Anyway... that was an easy fix.  All I had to do was... added the 
internal partition to the CSS of the GK trunk, and that fixed the issue.  Thank 
you for you help. JD

Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:20:03 +0200 
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Yes the CTI Ports need to be directly reachable by the Gateway CSS, without 
invoking the css of the translation pattern. You can use the translation 
pattern, but then use simply a css which is the same for the gateway and the 
translation pattern.  Hopefully Vik or Marc could explain, why this is special 
for CTI Ports and.  Cheers  

Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von 
DevildocGesendet: Donnerstag, 4. September 2008 23:14An: Christian HennrichCc: 
CCIE Voice Online Study ListBetreff: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Failed GK Calls to 
IPCC Services 
Christian, So you are saying that if the CSS of the GK-controlled trunk does 
not have access to the CTI ports partition, then the call would fail?  That 
makes sense because my GK-controlled trunk only has access to the GK partition 
which the  translation patterns belong to.  The translation patterns have CSS 
that could access the internal partition which the CTI ports belong.  So in 
this scenario, my trunk uses the translation pattern as the middle man to reach 
the CTI ports which the trunk does not have direct access to. I'll lab it up 
tomorrow to reconfigure my trunk to have access to the internal partition and 
see if that resolve the issue.  Thanks for help. JD> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 
21:48:03 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Failed GK Calls 
to IPCC Services> > Hi JD,> > Jonathan is correct, it works for normal phones, 
but for CTI ports, this > is special. cti ports need to be in the gateway cti 
ports.> > I do not why, but cti ports are not reachable, if they reside only in 
> the css which the translation patterns uses, but not in the gateway css.> > I 
had this often before on customer installations. This also happens > whit CUE 
CTI Ports. That is the reason why I also prefer and advise to > use the 
significant digits and the prefix on the gateway.> > Cheers> > Devildoc 
schrieb:> > CSS is not the problem here. All of my CTI ports belong to the same 
> > internal partition as with the rest of my phone extensions, and I > > could 
make calls from BR2 to HQ phones via the same GK trunk without > > any issue. 
Calls from BR2 to any extension, route pattern or > > translation pattern in HQ 
and BR1 worked through the GK trunk, except > > for these IPCC services DNs.> > 
> > If you have an opportunity to lab it next time, then please do and see > > 
if you have the same problem that i have.> > > > JD> >> >> > 
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:56:13 -0500> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Failed GK Calls to IPCC Services> 
> CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> >> >> > OK, let's do this in sequence.> 
>> > First off, since you are accepting 10-digits, that means basically all > > 
of em (cuz you are actually sending only 6 in this instance).> >> > So, the 
problem must be the translation pattern.> >> > Do you have a specific CSS on 
the trunk for inbound, which can see the > > translation pattern? I presume you 
do.> >> > First thing to check is the CSS of the translation pattern, can it 
see > > both the CTI RP AND the CTI Ports (as the call will hit the CTI RP and 
> > then get transferred to the CTI Port).> >> > The problem with your solution 
is that you will break many other > > components (Teho, etc...)> >> >> > 
Jonathan> >> > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Devildoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:> >> > Hello,> > > > For some reasons, calls 
from BR2 into IPCC Express services (i.e.> > AA and ICD) located in HQ failed 
via the GK-controlled trunk if> > the trunk is configured to accept 10 digits 
for incoming and use> > the translation pattern with predot to discard the 
extra digit and> > deliver only 4 digits to the IPCC Express services trigger> 
> number. The IPCC Express service trigger number would ring twice> > before 
giving me a busy status and a reorder tone. However, if> > the trunk is 
configured to accept only 4 incoming digits, then the> > call goes through 
successfully. All configuration stays the> > same. The only difference is the 
number of incoming digits> > accepted by the GK trunk.> > > > For example, I 
configured IPCC Express service ICD with the> > trigger number of 1710. I also 
configured a GK and a> > GK-controlled trunk. The trunk was configured to 
accept 10> > incoming digits. I also had a translation pattern of 1#.[12]xxx> > 
with a discard predot. From BR2, I made a call to 1710 with a> > tech-prefix of 
1#. The call got routed to the GK trunk which> > accepted all digits including 
the 1#. It then passed the 1#1710> > pattern to the translation pattern, which 
in turn stripped of the> > 1# and forwarded 1710 to the ICD trigger DN. The 
1710 DN rang> > twice and then it stopped, and i got a busy status on my BR2 
phone> > and a reorder tone. If I configured the GK trunk to accept only 4> > 
incoming digits and not using the translation pattern, then the> > call went 
through successfully without any issue.> > > > I was just wondering if i am the 
only one who has experienced this> > issue. Has anyone come across this issue 
before? Is this a bug> > or did i miss something in my configuration? Any help 
is greatly> > appreciated. Thanks.> > > > JD> >> > 
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