OK, just throwing my 2 cents in on the v3 lab. I haven't got my score yet, but I know I didn't make it. It was my first attempt and realized how crucial time management and having a well-planned strategy is. It is heartbreaking to have many sections working but you need just one more bullet working to get points for that section and you end up with 0 on that part. I tried to abide by the rule of not spending more than 15 minutes troubleshooting something and I think that is what got me. It seemed like I was hopping around from one thing to another and the end of the day came too quickly. There were parts that were no brainers and other parts where I changed one thing that broke other stuff I had previously configured. On a positive note, I definitely know my strengths and weaknesses now! :)
And, as it has been made very clear in this thread, do not ask for specifics. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Aamir Panjwani Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:13 PM To: Jonathan Charles Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 ahh I see thanks for clarification! -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Charles [mailto:jonv...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 2:12 PM To: Aamir Panjwani Cc: Brian Valentine; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 Please do not assume you will get the same feedback... I got this because I had a potential hardware fault and it turned out I caused the problem. Jonathan On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Aamir Panjwani<aamir.panjw...@ivision.com.au> wrote: > Jonathan, the most interesting bit of this entire thread is that Ben Ng sent > you an email with explanation of why you failed!! CCIE exam is notorious for > not telling you exactly where you lost points. So this must be a massive help > for you. By the way is that some kind of a new process that every candidate > will get detailed report of reasons for failure or are you some sort of a VIP > customer for them :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com > [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles > Sent: Saturday, 1 August 2009 6:40 AM > To: Brian Valentine > Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 > > I know, in way too much detail, why I failed... I got an email from > Ben Ng explaining it. > > > Jonathan > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Brian Valentine<bkvalent...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't know what we expect Jonathan to tell us. What we really want to ask >> is something we don't really want to know and something he really can't tell >> us anyway because of NDA. >> >> Jonathan, bummer that you failed. It sounds like you know why you failed -- >> which is a very good thing. Better luck on your next attempt. >> >> I will add this. I took the R&S exam last year and passed on my first >> attempt. I also thought the exam was a fair test of knowledge and skill. >> If you are well prepared in terms of understanding the technology deeply, >> have a plan of how to attack your lab, and follow your plan, you certainly >> CAN get 80 points in 8 hours. Now, I realize it is a different exam, but I >> would expect the voice exam to be similar in that it will be achievable. >> Cisco doesn't want to know primarily that you can do stupid tricks with >> routers and phones. Now I haven't sat the voice lab exam yet, but I would >> be extremely surprised and disappointed if there were 30 points of stupid >> phone tricks. Cisco wants to know that you understand the technology deeply >> enough that you can configure to a set of complex requirements. Bottom line >> -- they want to know that you are an expert. To an expert the exam should >> seem "easy". Of course, you could always have a tricky question or two, >> but remember that you don't need 100% to pass. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com >> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Damisch >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:17 PM >> To: Jonathan Charles; Tanner Ezell >> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 >> >> Thanks for that last bit of info. I will be sure to work on the [deleted by >> NDA] topics. Those are my weak areas. >> >> Thanks, >> Kevin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com >> [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan >> Charles >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM >> To: Tanner Ezell >> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 >> >> Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but >> [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also >> [deleted by NDA] >> >> >> Jonathan >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell<tanner.ez...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but >> you >>> cannot tell us >>> So all in all, <blank, details removed> >>> :) >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben >>>> Ng telling me why...) >>>> >>>> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and >>>> remarkably fair... >>>> >>>> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I >>>> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what >>>> was broken...). >>>> >>>> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what >>>> I expected it to be...) >>>> >>>> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP >>>> >>>> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >>>> visit www.ipexpert.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> This communication (including any attachments) is intended only for the use >> of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain >> information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure >> under applicable law. 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