I don't know what we expect Jonathan to tell us. What we really want to ask is something we don't really want to know and something he really can't tell us anyway because of NDA.
Jonathan, bummer that you failed. It sounds like you know why you failed -- which is a very good thing. Better luck on your next attempt. I will add this. I took the R&S exam last year and passed on my first attempt. I also thought the exam was a fair test of knowledge and skill. If you are well prepared in terms of understanding the technology deeply, have a plan of how to attack your lab, and follow your plan, you certainly CAN get 80 points in 8 hours. Now, I realize it is a different exam, but I would expect the voice exam to be similar in that it will be achievable. Cisco doesn't want to know primarily that you can do stupid tricks with routers and phones. Now I haven't sat the voice lab exam yet, but I would be extremely surprised and disappointed if there were 30 points of stupid phone tricks. Cisco wants to know that you understand the technology deeply enough that you can configure to a set of complex requirements. Bottom line -- they want to know that you are an expert. To an expert the exam should seem "easy". Of course, you could always have a tricky question or two, but remember that you don't need 100% to pass. -----Original Message----- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Damisch Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:17 PM To: Jonathan Charles; Tanner Ezell Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 Thanks for that last bit of info. I will be sure to work on the [deleted by NDA] topics. Those are my weak areas. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:05 PM To: Tanner Ezell Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thoughts on V3 Well, the [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] than I expected, but [deleted by NDA] was [deleted by NDA] and [deleted by NDA] was also [deleted by NDA] Jonathan On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Tanner Ezell<tanner.ez...@gmail.com> wrote: > So basically, you had thoughts, but can't share, and you did things, but you > cannot tell us > So all in all, <blank, details removed> > :) > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> OK, I took it monday in San Jose and failed (got a nice email from Ben >> Ng telling me why...) >> >> It was actually easier than I thought it was going to be... and >> remarkably fair... >> >> I made a mistake that broke something and that is the primary reason I >> didn't pass (no, I cannot tell you what the mistake was, or even what >> was broken...). >> >> I will say the exam was not what I expected (nope, can't tell you what >> I expected it to be...) >> >> I am retaking it 9/1 in RTP >> >> And for even less information, see http://www.cisco.com/go/ccie >> >> >> >> >> Jonathan >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please >> visit www.ipexpert.com > > _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com This communication (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Vital Support Systems at 515 334 5700 and delete or destroy all copies and the original document. _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
