We need the initial configs for the troubleshooting sections (V1) as well as
for the Volume 2 labs.

The Pre Lab section for Volume 2 says "lab requires some pre-configuration
to be loaded onto CUCM servers..."

Also it says "Simple press of a button on our web UI pre-loads your PSTN
Dialplan (as well as many other pre-configurations)! " taken from
http://ipexpert.ccieblog.com/2009/06/28/ccie-voice-v3-update-live-from-cisco-networkers-techtorial/

This leads me to believe we need the intial configs in some format, and when
viewing the Proctor Lab demo
http://proctorlabs.com/swf/demo/PLDemo.htmlthere is a install of the
pre-configured state for the servers, if it was a
blank canvas then there would be no need to install before each lab.




2009/8/6 Nara Shikamaru <[email protected]>

> No, it means that you have to do the labs in the order that's specified in
> the pre-requisites and that when you "break" some parts of the lab you need
> to "unbreak" them.  Frankly, I view the module 1 labs as individual
> walkthroughs and you shouldn't get too hung up on the making sure everything
> works perfectly.  The real work happens when you practice in the mock labs
> for volume 2.  Those are self-contained scenarios designed to have
> fully-working networks by the time you're done with them.  A lot of the
> mastery of the technology comes from applying techniques in different
> contexts.
>
> The real work happens in the mock labs, the volume 1 material is good for
> studying, reference, and acclimation.
>
>   On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Hough, Earl <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  I believe the original reason for the question was that in the
>> Troubleshooting half of each major lab number, the troubleshooting
>> requirements depend on pre-configurations being loaded into the equipment,
>> including routers, switches AND servers.  Without having the
>> pre-configurations for the servers, how can you appropriately work through
>> the sections of the labs which have faults introduced because of a
>> purposeful misconfiguration on one of the application servers?  I agree, you
>> should be able work through these, but without knowing the configuration of
>> the snapshots of those Virtual Machines which get restored when you chose to
>> load the initial configs for, say, Lab 4B, and you’re using your own
>> equipment, you won’t have the same configuration which Proctor Labs has
>> loaded onto those servers.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Earl Hough* CCIE #16508 (R&S/Security)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nara Shikamaru
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:35 PM
>> *To:* Andrew
>> *Cc:* [email protected]; Michael Ciarfello
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial
>> serverconfigs ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't understand the point, why do you need someoone to supply you with
>> initial configs?  You're supposed to be able to build the whole thing out
>> yourself for the lab.  People with home labs (I'm one of them) are going
>> through each module and building out the configs from scratch.  If you get
>> to the end of the volume 1 modules and your home lab is adequate, you're
>> ready to work on the mock labs.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I see a lot of folk here (and elsewhere) setting up their own labs (and
>> spending considerable money on them), what are you guys doing for initial
>> server configs, and IPExpert Support, what are you recommending ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Even if the intial configs were released as xls I would spend the time in
>> setting up my own BARS or snapshots, I do see some files within the intial
>> configs under my login but do not recognise the file types ?
>>
>>
>>
>> IPExpert must have something they can release / recommend.
>>
>> 2009/8/6 Michael Ciarfello <[email protected]>
>>
>> I think we’ve hinted at the servers before in another discussion.  Wish
>> they could post a bars backup of each lab.  It shouldn’t be too large.
>> Everyone should be using 7.0(1) so the version should match.  Restore the
>> bars backup then just change the phone mac addresses.
>>
>>
>>
>> There might be too much support requirements on the part of IPExpert if
>> they posted bars files.  Maybe they can post them with no support and no
>> guarantee they would work.  But then again, how would they make any money on
>> the proctorlabs rentals?
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I would pay a reasonable fee for bars files for the
>> troubleshooting sections of each lab.  The issue I am running into with
>> proctorlabs is my inability to dedicate an 8 hour session.  A bars file, I
>> can do in my own lab at my own pace.  I think it was also discussed in a
>> former thread of a 4-hour rental session.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Andrew [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:11 AM
>> *To:* Michael Ciarfello
>> *Cc:* Jeff Garvas; [email protected]
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial server
>> configs ?
>>
>>
>>
>> The setup for the routers and switch is pretty straight forward as you
>> say, with a bit of tweaking it should be fairly easy to duplicate the
>> configs (might have a few different interfaces but a good lab diag will
>> overcome that, as long as the functionality is there).
>>
>>
>>
>> The issue I see is for the servers, how do I install the initial configs
>> for the servers, is there a "generic" dial plan that is used in all labs
>> (that would save time). I think the way that Proctor Labs do them is they
>> take snapshots of the initial labs servers setups (using VMx (whatever they
>> use)) and revert back to them for each corrosponding lab, they can't release
>> these snapshots tho, so how can we (the home labber) do the same ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/8/6 Michael Ciarfello <[email protected]>
>>
>> NO, use the phone quanties they have otherwise you would be missing things
>> and would make it tougher to test 2 calls between HQ and BR2 for example for
>> AAR, RSVP, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think you might want to put a switch close to your workstation.  I was
>> thinking about this a little bit when you first asked and didn't work out
>> all the details to add a reply.
>>
>>
>>
>> You might be able to put a switch at your workstation.
>>
>> Port 1 trunks back to HQ 3750.
>>
>> Ports 2-6 are for phones.
>>
>>
>>
>> Port 7 is a trunk to the BR1 ESW
>>
>> Port 8-12 are for phones at your workstation
>>
>>
>>
>> etc for Br2
>>
>>
>>
>> You will have to restrict vlans to create three separate "virtual
>> switches" in the switch.  Just made that term up.  So your port 1 will have
>> sw trunk allowed-vlans 2-6 (Vlan 2 is data, lets say, vlan 3 is voice, etc
>> whatever else you need.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Your port 7 trunk connection will only allow vlans 7-12 on them.  Vlan 7
>> is Br1Data, VLan8 is Br1 Voice, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now we have to deal with spannig tree.  But PVST might work out if you get
>> the vlan restrictions proper and none of the other trunk ports will go into
>> blocking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then we have QoS. I would just set all ports for trust on your workstaion
>> switch and configure QoS on the data center equipment as the questions
>> permit you to.  So the workstation switch is just acting as a pass-through.
>>
>>
>>
>> The above might work for you.  Might be some more details to work out.
>> MIght have to put up with the noice in the data center for QoS topics.  Not
>> sure.
>>
>>
>>
>> Or an IPexpert like design might work for you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dumb question.  You can't run more cat 5 cables?
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Garvas [
>> [email protected]]
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:02 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* Michael Ciarfello
>> *Cc:* Andrew; [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial server
>> configs ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I'm in a similar situation as if using their rack remotely..  We put our
>> labs out in our data center for various reasons and I only have 4-5 cat5
>> runs to the cabinet, so I'm trying to come up with an easy solution by
>> mirroring their design as if my rack was remote like theirs.
>>
>> You're saying just use four phones?  two off BR2, one of BR1, one off HQ
>> ?    i guess that's such a simple solution I didn't even consider it until
>> just now.
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Michael Ciarfello <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The hardware shouldn't matter so much as long as it has the correct
>> capabilities.  I would move the cards around every once in an while, use
>> different IP address scheme and dial-plan scheme.
>>
>>
>>
>> HWIC will work fine.  Phones will need power bricks as you say.
>>
>>
>>
>> The internet cloud is for Ipexpert.  Their equipment is at a data center
>> with a couple phones on auto answer. The phones in the cloud are the phones
>> you can touch.  If you have all home lab gear, ignore the internet phones
>> and cloud.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Garvas [
>> [email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:25 AM
>> *To:* Michael Ciarfello
>> *Cc:* Andrew; [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial server
>> configs ?
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Great points. I'm expecting to need to define my card types since some of
>> them are E1/T1 capable.  I'm specifically re-configuring my hardware this
>> weekend to match the IPX hardware as much as possible, specifically with the
>> controller card slot assignments.   Maybe Vik or Mark (or anyone else here)
>> could provide some input for me here.
>>
>> I bought a 3825 for BR2 but it seems IPX is using straight 2811's.  Any
>> reason not to stick with my 3825?
>> I found an HWIC-4ESW today but its not POE.  Can I just put this in BR2
>> and use external power bricks for those two BR2 phones?
>>
>> For those of us labbing up at home/work how should we physically connect
>> the phones that are depicted in the drawing off the internet cloud?
>>
>> -Jeff
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Michael Ciarfello <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not.  But to do so I would guess just substitute your interfaces in
>> place of their interfaces.
>>
>> There are probably a bunch of other commands that need replacing.  Then
>> paste it into your router.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have my own dial-plan, IP addresses and directory numbers.  It's a
>> little confusing when working through the workbooks, but a diagram seems to
>> help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking through the HQ RTR for lab 5b initial
>>
>> You have to change at least the following commands:
>>
>> network-clock-select 1 T1 0/0/0
>>
>> controller T1 0/0/0 (and other controllers depending on your config)
>>
>> interface Serial0/0/0:23 (which comes from the controller)
>>
>> interface Serial0/0/1:0 for the data.  Sub-interfaces need to change also.
>>
>>
>>
>> all dial-peers that point to a physical inteface need to change (911,
>> 91212, 7, 11)
>>
>>
>>
>> Think that's it.  Wasn't as bad as I thought.  You might have to do some
>> troubleshooting to see why something isn't working, but should not be too
>> much a problem.
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew [
>> [email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:04 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial server
>> configs ?
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> For a home lab set up, how are you guys installing the initial configs?
>>
>> For the routers / switch it is straight forward (copy / paste), but what
>> about the servers?
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
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