I believe the original reason for the question was that in the Troubleshooting half of each major lab number, the troubleshooting requirements depend on pre-configurations being loaded into the equipment, including routers, switches AND servers. Without having the pre-configurations for the servers, how can you appropriately work through the sections of the labs which have faults introduced because of a purposeful misconfiguration on one of the application servers? I agree, you should be able work through these, but without knowing the configuration of the snapshots of those Virtual Machines which get restored when you chose to load the initial configs for, say, Lab 4B, and you're using your own equipment, you won't have the same configuration which Proctor Labs has loaded onto those servers.
Earl Hough CCIE #16508 (R&S/Security) From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nara Shikamaru Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:35 PM To: Andrew Cc: [email protected]; Michael Ciarfello Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial serverconfigs ? I don't understand the point, why do you need someoone to supply you with initial configs? You're supposed to be able to build the whole thing out yourself for the lab. People with home labs (I'm one of them) are going through each module and building out the configs from scratch. If you get to the end of the volume 1 modules and your home lab is adequate, you're ready to work on the mock labs. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote: I see a lot of folk here (and elsewhere) setting up their own labs (and spending considerable money on them), what are you guys doing for initial server configs, and IPExpert Support, what are you recommending ? Even if the intial configs were released as xls I would spend the time in setting up my own BARS or snapshots, I do see some files within the intial configs under my login but do not recognise the file types ? IPExpert must have something they can release / recommend. 2009/8/6 Michael Ciarfello <[email protected]> I think we've hinted at the servers before in another discussion. Wish they could post a bars backup of each lab. It shouldn't be too large. Everyone should be using 7.0(1) so the version should match. Restore the bars backup then just change the phone mac addresses. There might be too much support requirements on the part of IPExpert if they posted bars files. Maybe they can post them with no support and no guarantee they would work. But then again, how would they make any money on the proctorlabs rentals? I think I would pay a reasonable fee for bars files for the troubleshooting sections of each lab. The issue I am running into with proctorlabs is my inability to dedicate an 8 hour session. A bars file, I can do in my own lab at my own pace. I think it was also discussed in a former thread of a 4-hour rental session. From: Andrew [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:11 AM To: Michael Ciarfello Cc: Jeff Garvas; [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial server configs ? The setup for the routers and switch is pretty straight forward as you say, with a bit of tweaking it should be fairly easy to duplicate the configs (might have a few different interfaces but a good lab diag will overcome that, as long as the functionality is there). The issue I see is for the servers, how do I install the initial configs for the servers, is there a "generic" dial plan that is used in all labs (that would save time). I think the way that Proctor Labs do them is they take snapshots of the initial labs servers setups (using VMx (whatever they use)) and revert back to them for each corrosponding lab, they can't release these snapshots tho, so how can we (the home labber) do the same ? Andy 2009/8/6 Michael Ciarfello <[email protected]> NO, use the phone quanties they have otherwise you would be missing things and would make it tougher to test 2 calls between HQ and BR2 for example for AAR, RSVP, etc. I think you might want to put a switch close to your workstation. I was thinking about this a little bit when you first asked and didn't work out all the details to add a reply. You might be able to put a switch at your workstation. Port 1 trunks back to HQ 3750. Ports 2-6 are for phones. Port 7 is a trunk to the BR1 ESW Port 8-12 are for phones at your workstation etc for Br2 You will have to restrict vlans to create three separate "virtual switches" in the switch. Just made that term up. So your port 1 will have sw trunk allowed-vlans 2-6 (Vlan 2 is data, lets say, vlan 3 is voice, etc whatever else you need.) Your port 7 trunk connection will only allow vlans 7-12 on them. Vlan 7 is Br1Data, VLan8 is Br1 Voice, etc. Now we have to deal with spannig tree. But PVST might work out if you get the vlan restrictions proper and none of the other trunk ports will go into blocking. Then we have QoS. I would just set all ports for trust on your workstaion switch and configure QoS on the data center equipment as the questions permit you to. So the workstation switch is just acting as a pass-through. The above might work for you. Might be some more details to work out. MIght have to put up with the noice in the data center for QoS topics. Not sure. Or an IPexpert like design might work for you. Dumb question. You can't run more cat 5 cables? ________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Garvas [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:02 AM To: Michael Ciarfello Cc: Andrew; [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial server configs ? Michael, I'm in a similar situation as if using their rack remotely.. We put our labs out in our data center for various reasons and I only have 4-5 cat5 runs to the cabinet, so I'm trying to come up with an easy solution by mirroring their design as if my rack was remote like theirs. You're saying just use four phones? two off BR2, one of BR1, one off HQ ? i guess that's such a simple solution I didn't even consider it until just now. -jeff On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Michael Ciarfello <[email protected]> wrote: The hardware shouldn't matter so much as long as it has the correct capabilities. I would move the cards around every once in an while, use different IP address scheme and dial-plan scheme. HWIC will work fine. Phones will need power bricks as you say. The internet cloud is for Ipexpert. Their equipment is at a data center with a couple phones on auto answer. The phones in the cloud are the phones you can touch. If you have all home lab gear, ignore the internet phones and cloud. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Garvas [[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:25 AM To: Michael Ciarfello Cc: Andrew; [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial server configs ? Michael, Great points. I'm expecting to need to define my card types since some of them are E1/T1 capable. I'm specifically re-configuring my hardware this weekend to match the IPX hardware as much as possible, specifically with the controller card slot assignments. Maybe Vik or Mark (or anyone else here) could provide some input for me here. I bought a 3825 for BR2 but it seems IPX is using straight 2811's. Any reason not to stick with my 3825? I found an HWIC-4ESW today but its not POE. Can I just put this in BR2 and use external power bricks for those two BR2 phones? For those of us labbing up at home/work how should we physically connect the phones that are depicted in the drawing off the internet cloud? -Jeff On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Michael Ciarfello <[email protected]> wrote: I'm not. But to do so I would guess just substitute your interfaces in place of their interfaces. There are probably a bunch of other commands that need replacing. Then paste it into your router. I have my own dial-plan, IP addresses and directory numbers. It's a little confusing when working through the workbooks, but a diagram seems to help. Looking through the HQ RTR for lab 5b initial You have to change at least the following commands: network-clock-select 1 T1 0/0/0 controller T1 0/0/0 (and other controllers depending on your config) interface Serial0/0/0:23 (which comes from the controller) interface Serial0/0/1:0 for the data. Sub-interfaces need to change also. all dial-peers that point to a physical inteface need to change (911, 91212, 7, 11) Think that's it. Wasn't as bad as I thought. You might have to do some troubleshooting to see why something isn't working, but should not be too much a problem. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew [[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Home lab - How to load initial server configs ? Hi For a home lab set up, how are you guys installing the initial configs? For the routers / switch it is straight forward (copy / paste), but what about the servers? 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