Just to add, from a CCIE scope, the IPX way is enough - we simply need to
manually add the pri-group timeslots command with the correct number of
channels that need to be used. Not required to modify any service parameter
on CUCM.

>From the exams perspective, I would suggest:

1. Downloading the configuration from CUCM by adding the ccm-manager config
and ccm-manager config server commands after configuring everything on CUCM.
2. This should add the pri-group timeslots command with 24 channels.
3. Shut down the voice-port/serial interface/controller and remove L3
binding from the Serial interface
4. Remove the ccm-manager config/ccm-manager config server commands.
5. Remove the pri-g timeslots command and re-add it with the correct number
of channels. No shut the controller and the serial interface (if
applicable).
6. Manually add L3 binding on the Serial interface.

Issue a no mgcp/mgcp

Should be good to go.

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kshitij Singhi <martinian.ksin...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Fractional MGCP controlled PRIs are not supported by TAC. It's not possible
> to configure a fractional PRI by downloading the config from CUCM via the
> following commands:
>
> ccm-manager config
> ccm-manager config server <IP>
>
> However, a fractional MGCP controlled PRI works fine when the GW is
> manually configured. To do this, we need to add the following commands on
> the GW:
>
> ccm-m mgc
> ccm-m call-agent <IP>
> ccm-m redun <IP> (If applicable)
> controller t1 x/y/z
> pri-g time 1-5 ser mgc (assuming 5 channels are being used - the Telco will
> need to be configured accordingly as well)
> int ser x/y/z:23
> isdn bind-l3 ccm-manager
> mgcp
>
> The statement "CUCM does not support a fractional MGCP controlled PRI"
> might not be entirely accurate since CUCM definitely works great with a
> fractional MGCP controlled PRI. I guess saying that "CUCM cannot auto
> configure a fractional MGCP controlled PRI" would be more accurate.
>
> In the case of a fractional PRI, CUCM sends AUEP messages to the GW for the
> "unconfigured" channels on the PRI, but the GW responds with an "endpoint
> unknown" message - hence, CUCM does not consider those channels during call
> routing.
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:42 AM, 
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>> We've had somewhat a perfect storm of multiple things go wrong. We
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>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:34, edgar feliz <ejfeli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > To many people are having issue for it to be "operator error"
>> > it's?definitely something on their end ISP etc.
>> > EJF
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Chris Martin <clm.c...@gmail.com>
>> > To: pithog...@yahoo.com
>> > Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 10:31 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] I need hardware Vpn assistance on a
>> session
>> > now
>> >
>> > You can open a case with support, that would be the quickest way to get
>> > their help. ?Did you use IPE's configuration for hardware vpn? ?What
>> type of
>> > router are you using? ?Did you enter the commands to initiate the xauth?
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:58 AM, <pithog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am on a current session now and I can't access proctorlabs via
>> hardware
>> > vpn, my router can ping internet but my laptop connected to the router
>> can't
>> > access the internet so as to initiate hardware VPN .
>> >
>> > Please help, you can even connect to my laptop via team viewer .
>> >
>> > Experts kindly assist
>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:00:34 +0000
>> From: pithog...@yahoo.com
>> To: "Marko Milivojevic" <mar...@ipexpert.com>,  "edgar feliz"
>>        <ejfeli...@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>,
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>> The support people at ipexpert have not been helpful in recent times all
>> they tell me is that there are not ccie level support engineers, I just
>> changed my hardware vpn to a 881 router last week so its been difficult to
>> ascertain where the issue is coming from although I have done all I should
>> do on my end and I had issues through out this morning, as I speak I have
>> just started a new session, I will appreciate some support now.
>>
>> Thanks marko
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marko Milivojevic <mar...@ipexpert.com>
>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 13:51:57
>> To: edgar feliz<ejfeli...@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: Chris Martin<clm.c...@gmail.com>; pithog...@yahoo.com<
>> pithog...@yahoo.com>; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<
>> ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] I need hardware Vpn assistance on a
>> session now
>>
>> We've had somewhat a perfect storm of multiple things go wrong. We
>> should be operational right now and we have several support cases open
>> with our ISPs and equipment vendors.
>>
>> Please, get in touch with our support at supp...@ipexpert.com and
>> supp...@proctorlabs.com with any issues that you may still be having.
>> We have our entire support and technical team, including all the
>> instructors working on maintaing our services up and running at the
>> level you are all used to.
>>
>> We sincerely apologize for the inconveniences.
>>
>> --
>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>
>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>
>> Mailto: mar...@ipexpert.com
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:34, edgar feliz <ejfeli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > To many people are having issue for it to be "operator error"
>> > it's?definitely something on their end ISP etc.
>> > EJF
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Chris Martin <clm.c...@gmail.com>
>> > To: pithog...@yahoo.com
>> > Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 10:31 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] I need hardware Vpn assistance on a
>> session
>> > now
>> >
>> > You can open a case with support, that would be the quickest way to get
>> > their help. ?Did you use IPE's configuration for hardware vpn? ?What
>> type of
>> > router are you using? ?Did you enter the commands to initiate the xauth?
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:58 AM, <pithog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am on a current session now and I can't access proctorlabs via
>> hardware
>> > vpn, my router can ping internet but my laptop connected to the router
>> can't
>> > access the internet so as to initiate hardware VPN .
>> >
>> > Please help, you can even connect to my laptop via team viewer .
>> >
>> > Experts kindly assist
>> >
>> > Pithohoil
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry? Smartphone, from Etisalat. Enjoy high speed
>> > internet service with Etisalat easy net, available at all our experience
>> > centres
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please
>> > visit www.ipexpert.com
>> >
>> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please
>> > visit www.ipexpert.com
>> >
>> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com
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>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please
>> > visit www.ipexpert.com
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>> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 15:38:14 -0600
>> From: Robert Thomas <tho...@gmail.com>
>> To: Ken Wyan <kew...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Fractional MGCP
>> Message-ID:
>>        <CAJ2RBBCFy_ncn+jb_rcw6fhaop_d30neBq8TJ9V8K6oWAP=
>> d...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> It's definetly not supported, since the MGCP protocol asume all channels
>> are
>> in service. You can use the service parameter to take them out of service
>> from CUCM perspective.
>>
>> They do this to avoid allocating more DSP to bring all 24 channels, when
>> you
>> will only place a few calls, so they can save some bucks on rack
>> equipment.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Ken Wyan <kew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In IPX workbooks ; they limit number of channels just by pri-group
>> > timeslots 1-5,24 service mgcp command only. ( I didn't go through all
>> the
>> > solutions yet  , but I have seen this few times so far)
>> >
>> > But I think fractional pri for MGCP is  not supported by CUCM as per
>> Cisco
>> > documentation.
>> >
>> > Somehow there's a way as below ( B chan maintenance & status poll ).
>> > https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/97578   ( not an official cisco
>> > document)
>> >
>> > For CCIE scope , does IPX way is enough? But it will not do the required
>> > job.
>> >
>> > Wyan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please
>> > visit www.ipexpert.com
>> >
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>> > www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Robert
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:47:39 -0700
>> From: Rrcrumm <rrcr...@yahoo.com>
>> To: "pithog...@yahoo.com" <pithog...@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>,
>>        "supp...@proctorlabs.com" <supp...@proctorlabs.com>,
>>        "supp...@ipexpert.com" <supp...@ipexpert.com>
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] I need hardware Vpn assistance on a
>>        session now
>> Message-ID: <8ae23c19-0158-4a7d-881d-48613d664...@yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>>
>> Are you consoled onto the router? You need to do a command from the CLI to
>> VPN in. O can't remember it offhand but it us something like, IPSec VPN
>> client ezvpn connect, then the Cauthen command. Below you said you computer
>> can't reach the Internet. You should use the router CLI.
>>
>> Hth
>> Randall
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 2:00 PM, pithog...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> > The support people at ipexpert have not been helpful in recent times all
>> they tell me is that there are not ccie level support engineers, I just
>> changed my hardware vpn to a 881 router last week so its been difficult to
>> ascertain where the issue is coming from although I have done all I should
>> do on my end and I had issues through out this morning, as I speak I have
>> just started a new session, I will appreciate some support now.
>> >
>> > Thanks marko
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry? Smartphone, from Etisalat. Enjoy high speed
>> internet service with Etisalat easy net, available at all our experience
>> centres
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Marko Milivojevic <mar...@ipexpert.com>
>> > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 13:51:57
>> > To: edgar feliz<ejfeli...@yahoo.com>
>> > Cc: Chris Martin<clm.c...@gmail.com>; pithog...@yahoo.com<
>> pithog...@yahoo.com>; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com<
>> ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] I need hardware Vpn assistance on a
>> session now
>> >
>> > We've had somewhat a perfect storm of multiple things go wrong. We
>> > should be operational right now and we have several support cases open
>> > with our ISPs and equipment vendors.
>> >
>> > Please, get in touch with our support at supp...@ipexpert.com and
>> > supp...@proctorlabs.com with any issues that you may still be having.
>> > We have our entire support and technical team, including all the
>> > instructors working on maintaing our services up and running at the
>> > level you are all used to.
>> >
>> > We sincerely apologize for the inconveniences.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> >
>> > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> >
>> > Mailto: mar...@ipexpert.com
>> > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:34, edgar feliz <ejfeli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> To many people are having issue for it to be "operator error"
>> >> it's definitely something on their end ISP etc.
>> >> EJF
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Chris Martin <clm.c...@gmail.com>
>> >> To: pithog...@yahoo.com
>> >> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 10:31 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] I need hardware Vpn assistance on a
>> session
>> >> now
>> >>
>> >> You can open a case with support, that would be the quickest way to get
>> >> their help.  Did you use IPE's configuration for hardware vpn?  What
>> type of
>> >> router are you using?  Did you enter the commands to initiate the
>> xauth?
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:58 AM, <pithog...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am on a current session now and I can't access proctorlabs via
>> hardware
>> >> vpn, my router can ping internet but my laptop connected to the router
>> can't
>> >> access the internet so as to initiate hardware VPN .
>> >>
>> >> Please help, you can even connect to my laptop via team viewer .
>> >>
>> >> Experts kindly assist
>> >>
>> >> Pithohoil
>> >> Sent from my BlackBerry? Smartphone, from Etisalat. Enjoy high speed
>> >> internet service with Etisalat easy net, available at all our
>> experience
>> >> centres
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please
>> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> >>
>> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>> >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please
>> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> >>
>> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>> >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please
>> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> >>
>> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>> >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>> >>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>> >
>> > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:41:59 +0530
>> From: Ken Wyan <kew...@gmail.com>
>> To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice]  PREDOT DDI vs NANP:PREDOT DDI
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi Experts,
>>
>> I want to strip digits of called number from CUCM (outgoing from CUCM).
>>
>> PREDOT DDI option is not available in Route-List / Route-Group level
>> (unlike
>> in route pattern).
>>
>> If we don't have NANP & want to strip predot-digits at route-group level
>> what is the option? IPX Solutions just use NANP:PREDOT DDI ; but I have a
>> doubt.
>>
>> Ken
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