Right and who said we need to do away with physical phones?  We will also
be able to use physical phones to browser the web.


On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Martin Sloan <martinsloa...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I definitely prefer a physical phone to a soft phone!  Kind of a bit off
> topic, have you guys seen this:
>
>
> http://www.shoretel.com/about/newsroom/press_releases/New_ShoreTel_Dock_Transforms_iPad_and_iPhone_Into_Desk_Phone_.html
>
>
> I was just telling my buddy how Cisco had such a great idea with the Cius
> but missed out by trying to create their own tablet, and then I see an
> advertisement for this.  If Cisco had only provided the dock for and
> already super competitive tablet/smartphone market, it would have been
> brilliant!  I'm surprised Shoretel seems to be the only company that sees
> the opportunity here.  Vendors can keep making money on hardware but
> provide a unified client experience across all platforms (Jabber).  It's
> the best of both worlds!
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Michael Davis <michaeldavis1...@yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>
>> No matter what, there will ALWAYS been a need for large scale Enterprise
>> voice systems. I am one of those people, and I am sure I am not alone, I
>> will always want a physical phone. I am also one of these engineers who
>> will always recommned a system that is directly under your own site's
>> controll. Clouds are great, but they have their place. I don't think
>> telecom will ever be a total cloud based solution.
>>
>>    *From:* Bill Lake <whl...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* Drake J <jdrake...@gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:12 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Is the CCIE voice worth anymore?
>>
>> As a former big Telco employee, they want three things:
>>      Stability
>>      Scalability
>>      Profitability
>>
>> At this time these applications are not there.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Bill Lake <whl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As a former big Telco employee, they want three things:
>>       Stability
>>      Scalability
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Drake J <jdrake...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> hi Laksh,
>>
>> Thanks for your inputs here.    This was a good discussion.   It is
>> always good for us to all know about things that happen outside  . Talking
>> about Telco OTTs we can already see  few of the Telcos have come out  with
>> Webrtc solutions for enterprise and service providers .  Check this video
>> out too depicting their solution...
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz-BQZMp3sk
>>
>>
>> Most of these applications written on software are  supposed to  open
>> source and left for the users to customize .   No real networking staff
>> expertise required   just download the  SDK/API and customize and no more
>> complex network topologies in future.  Also no licensing fee too .  Hence a
>> real killer  of  techology  in the future  most likely we will see a wide
>> spread of this starting 2014 if all predictions are to be believed.
>>
>>
>> Hope someone from any of the TELCOs  on this alias can add a few comments
>> as well.
>>
>>
>> Thanks once again for your inputs everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Lakshmish NS <lakshmish...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> Hi Drake,
>>
>> I totally understand your concern, I'd be worried too. Having said that,
>> we should always update ourselves with the latest technology. However, in
>> future I believe Asterisk might be able to give tough run to Cisco UC. Not
>> sure though, I hear stories that it is unstable and featureless compared to
>> CUCM. I hope if someone aware of Asterisk would help us out here.
>>
>> Regard,
>>
>> Laksh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Drake J <jdrake...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Thanks for your responses  I see u guys have empathized on call routing
>> and and UC hardware for backend deployments.  However Telco OTTs are coming
>> up with directly provide these services over the cloud . Here is a
>> disruptive analysis :
>>
>>
>> http://www.slideshare.net/deanb/disruptive-analysis-web-rtc-overview-april-2013
>>
>>
>> Anyways, this might be not be so serious afterall . Just thought of
>> brainstorming  .
>>
>> Thanks guys for your responses again.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Lakshmish NS <lakshmish...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> Didn't have time to go through the video, I believe WebRTC is nothing but
>> a Protocol, similar to SIP, H.323. Moreover, this protocol would only
>> appeal to the Web audience, just like Skype, or Google talk. You still need
>> to use UC hardware and their design for enterprise deployments. I mean we
>> don't use Google talk and Skype in companies right? SIP is open source, but
>> still Cisco uses it. As FAQ's suggest "WebRTC is an open framework for
>> the web that enables Real Time Communications in the browser". If only UC
>> was that easy that could be implemented through browser, we didn't have to
>> work this hard for CCIE numbers. You might want to go through this...
>> http://www.webrtc.org/faq
>>
>> You've clearly misinterpreted WebRTC here..
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Drake J <jdrake...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> hi All,
>>
>>
>> Had a troubling question hence thought of putting it out .Looking at the
>> UC and networking trends worldwide it appears that
>> the future of UC and collaboration is web based. Webrtc is
>> the protocol that the world will use and individuals and organizations
>> just need to code their requirement based on the WEBRTC.
>>
>> Here is the presentation that Google recently made
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8C8ouiXHHk
>>
>>
>> Clearly many of the UC vendors are already losing out and will be
>> losing out in year 2014.
>>
>>
>> Most of the customers are already looking at reducing the cost involved
>> in maintaining costly UC vendor networks and their networking staff .
>>
>>
>> Therefore that brings me to my question is the CCIE voice worth anymore?
>>
>>
>> -Drake
>>
>>
>>
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