Although this is not a very important issue..., I am a bit surprised by
Gerard's insistance for a 'stop calling rmsd "rms deviation"'. Isn'it a
general term in statistical studies, valid for distances separating
homologous atoms as well as for any other factor (B factors for example) ?

Philippe Dumas
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>Is the rms xyz displacement equivalent to an rmsd??

yes. it is in fact a better name than "rms deviation", although i think
'root-mean-square distance' is even better, as it says exactly what you
calculate.

think of it like this, the formula for rmsd is:

RMSD = square-root [ SUM(atoms) { (x1-x2)^2 + (y1-y2)^2 + (z1-z2)^2 } /
Natoms
]

now, "(x1-x2)^2 + (y1-y2)^2 + (z1-z2)^2" is the Square of the Distance
between
two equivalenced atoms in structure 1 and 2; adding them for all pairs of
equivalenced atoms and dividing by the number of atoms gives you the Mean
Squared Distance; finally, taking the square root yields the
Root-Mean-Square
Distance, or RMSD

so, people, can we all please stop calling rmsd "rms deviation" - it really
is
an "rms distance" (or "rms displacement"). you could argue that the formula
gives some kind of rms coordinate deviation, but in that case you ought to
divide by 3*Natoms instead.

(having said that, the term "RMS B displacement" sounds positively silly!)

--dvd

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