Dear Eric Bennett,

3g6a was processed by PDB_REDO (without the original R-free set which
sadly wasn't deposited) on Monday, 20 July 2009 at 21:35 CEST with
PDB_REDO version 2.6: http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/pdb_redo/g6/3g6a/index.html
That was roughly two months after the last revision (the entry is replaced
each time the timestamp of either the PDB or SF file changes). Okay, it is
not done instantly but we keep up with the PDB reasonably well. If you
cannot find the PDB_REDO entry directly, you can always try the link on
the PDBe entry page.

You are quite right saying that EDS and PDB_REDO do not work for all
structures. They do however work for 98% of all structures (at least
PDB_REDO does). Of the 2% percent that is missing, 1% is caused by things
we understand and are annotated in WHY_NOT (www.cmbi.ru.nl/WHY_NOT), the
other 1% is caused by cases where we cannot reproduce R(-free) to within
10 percentage points. We are currently investigating those and the PDB has
been a great help in that. Oh, and PDB_REDO does take twinning into
account (at least to the extent Refmac does).

You were also right about the list of all entries. We recently moved to a
newer version of WHY_NOT which broke the link. My bad, I have fixed it.

On topic:
I think the deposition of maps is a waste of space. Maps may describe what
the depositors <paranoid>want you to think they</paranoid> have looked at.
But that does not mean they looked at the right thing. Who knows what they
did to the maps in terms of (unwarrented) density modefication to make
them look cleaner? The advantage of the EDS is that it is impartial and
uniform. The maps are generated in a clear and well-described way.

Cheers,
Robbie

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> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:33:04 -0500
> From: er...@pobox.com
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] FW: pdb-l: Retraction of 12
Structures....=?UNKNOWN?Q?=FE?=
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
> >Dear Fred,
> >
> >People have already done this for all PDB entries:
> >- http://eds.bmc.uu.se/eds/ : maps and many crystallographic stats
> >- http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/pdb_redo : maps and re-refinement. And yes, the
> >stats and maps do improve most of the time, unfortunately also for
> >structures that are not "old" (but to a lesser extent).
>
> Except it doesn't work for _all_ PDB entries, even when SF are
> available. On your site, for example, the "Current entries" link on
> the home page seems to be broken and entry 3G6A (which was released 8
> months ago) is not available for some unspecified reason.
>
> For some cases (like twinned structures) EDS won't have a map.
>
> Rather than relying on availability of a third party server to enable
> viewing the map, it would be a much cleaner solution if authors just
> deposited their own maps in the PDB.
>
> --

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