I'm replying here to myself :-)

So in an off-board discussion it turns out that the "microscope" in question 
was a special emitted light and not a UV microscope. So real UV microscopes 
might be better for the purpose of detecting real crystals.

Sorry for the confusion - had too much sun today :-)

Jürgen

On Sep 15, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Jürgen Bosch wrote:

I once tested such a commercial system in Seattle about 4 years ago. It did not 
impress me. In particular the discrimination between salt and protein did not 
work for about 10 different proteins from which we already had collected data. 
sure those were small between 10 and 100 micrometer. Excuse was to few 
tryptophans
So in theory it is nice but a cheaper variant might be to add Gfp to your 
protein and screen for something green.
Jürgen

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Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
Baltimore, MD 21205
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On Sep 15, 2011, at 16:03, Frank von Delft <frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

A while ago I was trying to be cheap, so we played around with it quite
a bit in the lab.  After rediscovering some of the basics of
signal-to-noise and microscope transmission efficiency and that sort of
rot, I realised that the commercial systems may not be all that
ridiculously overpriced after all.  Not if one wants to be able to say
something useful about really really small crystals -- the only ones
that really matter in the grand scheme of things (big ones are quick to
test; little ones must first be optimized = money+time).

But maybe I was just being incompetent.  Happens.
phx.




On 15/09/2011 20:50, Andrew Purkiss-Trew wrote:
Quoting "Harman, Christine"<christine.har...@fda.hhs.gov>:

Hi All,
I was curious if any of you have tried or even know if it is
possible to adapt a stereoscope (in my case an Olympus SZX10 model)
so as to view protein crystals with UV illumination. Basically, I
want a cheap manual version of what a Rock UV Imager does.  I know
this is probably a crazy dream.  However, I would greatly appreciate
any comments, advice or experience any of you may have.

Molecular Dimension do such an adaptor which fits to existing microscopes.

See
<http://www.moleculardimensions.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=121&cat=X%2DtaLight%3Csup%3E%99%3C%2Fsup%3E+100+%2D+UV+for+Microscope+>


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Bloomberg School of Public Health
Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
Baltimore, MD 21205
Office: +1-410-614-4742
Lab:      +1-410-614-4894
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