Cad will do this correctly
Reflection utilitied - merge mtz ( rather confusing job title - sorry..)
mtz in - the P4121.mtz data
Output - P41212-ext.mtz

Defne mtz output

Select define limit for refl;action by Laue code select P1

then you will get a list of all P1 reflections with phases correctly
modified.

If you really want to work in P1 you will need to change the space group in
P41212-ext.mtz
Easiest way is
mtzutils hklin1 P4121-ext.mtz hklout P41212-ext-symP1.mtz
SYMM P1
end

DONT change the G of P41212.mtz before doing the extension - the program
needs the P41212 sym ops to change the phases correctly..

If you want the coordinates extended too
use pdbset to get a P1 set of cds..   (Coordinate utilities
Edit pdb
 select pdbset and "generate chains by symmetry operators"
eleanor
Eleanor





On 12 April 2012 06:51, Henning Stahlberg <henning.stahlb...@unibas.ch>wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
>
> I am working in a P4212 plane group, which is a p4 symmetric structure
> with a screw axis in addition. My map has in the unit cell two 4-fold
> symmetric structures, one if which is upside-down with respect to the other
> one.   If using expand in sftools, then the resulting map is p4 symmetrized
> in the center between two p4-symmetric structures, which is wrong. This is
> probably the phase origin problem referred to here:
> http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/html/sftools.html#expand
>
> Would anybody have a suggestion how I can expand the p4212 MTZ file to
> full p1, but with properly respecting the symmetry phase origin?
>
> My illiterate guess would be to either
> 1) shift the phase origin in the p4212 MTZ file by (180.0;0.0); then use
> sftools with "expand 1" to create the full reflection sets in p1; then
> shift back by (180.0;0.0);   or
> 2) use sftools with the command "expand 1", and then modify (invert?) the
> phases of the reflections in the quadrants that have wrong phases.
>
> In option 1) I am not sure if it is possible to shift phase origin, while
> staying in p4212 symmetry.  How could I do that?
> In option 2) I would probably get into deep water the next time I work
> with another symmetry, like p6212, or p2121, where I would have to deal not
> with quadrants but with triangles of 60deg angle?
>
> Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
>
> All the best,
>
> Henning.
>
> Henning Stahlberg, PhD
> Prof. for Structural Biology, C-CINA, Biozentrum, University Basel
> Mattenstrasse 26 | D-BSSE | WRO-1058 | CH-4058 Basel | Switzerland
> http://c-cina.org | Tel. +41-61-387 32 62
>

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