Dear Sacha, Dear Colleagues, I also offer my congratulations to the Chemistry Nobellists of yesterday. A very exciting and significant event, which I enjoyed. I recall when my PhD student, Gail Bradbrook, spoke about our harnessing these exciting methods in our crystallographic and structural chemistry concanavalin A saccharide studies, to crystallographers, there was a wide spread of reactions. Ie from scepticism to shared excitement. As an example of Gail's work see eg http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1998/ft/a800429c/unauth#!divAbstract It is sometimes said that a Nobel Prize kills a field. I think we can say instead that it is mature. But, to couple with the discussion on peer review; there are weaknesses in conventional ie the usual peer review; it does not cope well with 'risk and adventure' results. post publication peer review is an interesting solution, which in my view should be tried. This bulletin board itself in fact is a great initiative, institution actually, which helps develops community views of results and trends. Just my two pennies worth, Greetings, John
Prof John R Helliwell DSc FInstP CPhys FRSC CChem F Soc Biol. Chair School of Chemistry, University of Manchester, Athena Swan Team. http://www.chemistry.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/athena/index.html On 10 Oct 2013, at 09:26, Alexandre OURJOUMTSEV <sa...@igbmc.fr> wrote: > Hello to everybody, > > Alex, it was a great idea to initiate the conversation sending > congratulations to our colleagues ! > Bob, it was another great idea, when congratulating the Winners, to remind us > of the framework. > > As one of my colleagues pointed out, we shall also give a lot of credits to > Shneior Lifson who was in the very origins of these works, ideas and programs > (see the paper by M.Levitt "The birth of computational structural biology", > Nature Structural & Molecuar Biology, 8, 392-393 (2001); > http://www.nature.com/nsmb/journal/v8/n5/full/nsb0501_392.html ). > > Older crystallographers may remember a fundamental paper by Levitt & Lifson > (1969). > > With best wishes, > > Sacha Urzhumtsev > > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] De la part de Sweet, > Robert > Envoyé : mercredi 9 octobre 2013 23:52 > À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] השב: [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel > committee decision? > > It deserves comment!! I've been too busy talking with my friends about it to > think of CCP4. > > This morning on NPR I heard Karplus's name and started to whoop and holler, > and by the time they got to Arieh I realized they had a Hat Trick!! It's a > spectacular thing that this field should get recognition! > > An interesting feature to me is that, at least when I was following the > field, these three use physics to do their work, modeling with carefully > estimated spring constants, etc., and eventually QM results. Those who use > phenomenology -- hydrophobic volumes, who likes to lie next to whom, etc. -- > are extremely effective (you know who they are), and they deserve credit. > But they (we, some years ago) stand on the shoulders of the achievements of > these three. > > It's good to remember the late, great, Tony Jack, cut down before reaching > his prime. > > Bob > > ________________________________________ > From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Nat Echols > [nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:31 PM > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] השב: [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel > committee decision? > > Levitt also contributed to DEN refinement (Schroder et al. 2007, 2010). > > -Nat > > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Boaz Shaanan > <bshaa...@bgu.ac.il<mailto:bshaa...@bgu.ac.il>> wrote: > Good point. Now since you mentioned contributions of the recent Nobel > laureates to crystallography Mike Levitt also had a significant contribution > through the by now forgotten Jack-Levitt refinement which to the best of my > knowledge was the first time that x-ray term was added to the energy > minimization algorithm. I think I'm right about this. This was later adapted > by Axel Brunger in Xplor and other progrmas followed. > Cheers, Boaz > > > > -------- הודעה מקורית -------- > מאת Alexander Aleshin > <aales...@sanfordburnham.org<mailto:aales...@sanfordburnham.org>> > תאריך: 10/10/2013 0:07 (GMT+02:00) > אל CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> > נושא [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel committee decision? > > > Sorry for a provocative question, but I am surprised why nobody > comments/congratulations laureates with regard to recently awarded Nobel > prizes? However, one of laureates in chemistry contributed to a popular > method in computational crystallography. > CHARMM -> XPLOR -> CNS -> PHENIX->… > > Alex Aleshin > <Levitt_2001_NatureStrBiol_8_392-393.pdf>
