Dear Enrico,

"almost always it will be possible to achieve  
better diffraction using cryogenic data collection."

I would say "almost always until now". Times change, instrumentation improves
and data collection techniques are becoming cunning. It's right time people 
start
exploring the new possibilities offered by modern synchrotrons.

All the best,

J

 
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On Thursday, 6 February 2014, 11:35, Enrico Stura <est...@cea.fr> wrote:
 
Dear Joern and other BBers,

While I fully agree that it is important to test a few images at room  
temperature, to know the crystal's
potential, I think that almost always it will be possible to achieve  
better diffraction using cryogenic
data collection.
Those rare cases, as the one you mention below are worthy of critical  
investigation  as
to why there is a loss of order on cryo-cooling:
Unsuitable cryoprotectant is my first guess.
The rate of cooling in liquid N2 is slow, liquid ethane could be a better  
choice.

Enrico


On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 11:19:47 +0100, Joern Krausze <jk...@helmholtz-hzi.de>  
wrote:

> Dear Theresa,
>
> We recently collected a room temperature data set from one single  
> crystal at Petra III. The beam line was equipped with a Pilatus  
> detector. Data were good to 2.7 A. In contrast, at 100 K similar  
> crystals diffracted very poorly. So, it is perfectly possible to obtain  
> useful room temperature data sets from synchrotron sources. I have to  
> admit that in our case it certainly helped that the crystal belonged to  
> a high-symmetry space and full completeness was achieved after 40  
> degrees angular range.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joern
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 06.02.2014, at 10:51, Theresa Hsu <theresah...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear crystallographers
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, is it possible to collect datasets from crystals  
>> at room temperature at synchrotron? Are fast detectors like Pilatus  
>> useful for this?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Theresa


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