Dear Francis, could you elaborate how something like Quora (what is it) would save you time compared to en email based? From what I gathered at wikipedia, Quora is web based, and in my experience web based services usually follow Wirth's law: they are slooooow.
Cheers, Tim On 02/13/2014 05:47 PM, Francis Reyes wrote: > The CCP4bb is great.. it truly is. > > The access to experts and their experience (probably the most valuable) is > unparalleled. > > However, mailing lists to organize discussions and disseminate new ideas is > just so ... 90s. > > Wikis? maybe you've just crossed into the new millenium. > > These days, if the questions/answers of the ccp4bb moved into something like > Quora, > It would save me a lot of time. > > F > > > > On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Nat Echols <nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> One comment (not a complaint) on all this: it seems like the same questions >> get asked over and over again. If there is a good place for a general >> crystallography FAQ list it is well past time for one to be put together - >> or maybe it just needs to be better advertised? At a minimum, for instance: >> >> - what cryoprotectant should I use? >> - how do I get big single crystals? >> - how do I improve diffraction? >> - how can I tell if I've solved my structure? >> - why is my R-free stuck? >> - is <pick random statistic> suitable for publication? >> >> Some of the other common queries ("name my blob!") still need to be handled >> on a case-by-case basis, but it would be much more efficient for everyone if >> the standard answers were collected somewhere permanent. >> >> -Nat >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Eugene Valkov <eugene.val...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> I absolutely agree with Juergen. >> >> Leaving aside methods developers, who are a completely different breed, >> there is no such thing as a "crystallographer" sitting in a dark room >> solving structures all day. If there are, these are anachronisms destined >> for evolutionary demise. >> >> More and more cell biologists, immunologists and all other kinds of >> biologists are having a go at doing structural work with their molecules of >> interest themselves without involving the "professionals". Typically, they >> learn on the job and they need advice with all kinds of things ranging from >> cloning and protein preps through to issues with tetartohedrally-twinned >> data and interpreting their structures. >> >> So, a modern structural biologist is one who is equipped for the wet lab and >> has some idea of how to go about solving structures. CCP4BB is a wonderful >> resource that is great for both the quality of the advice offered to those >> that seek it and for the variety of topics that are addressed in the scope >> of structural biology. I have learnt greatly from reading posts from very >> skilled and knowledgeable scientists at this forum and then implemented >> these insights into my own research. I am very grateful for this. >> >> In short, please do not discourage your colleagues, particularly very junior >> ones, from posting to the CCP4BB. Some of the questions may appear quaint or >> irrelevant but it is easy to simply ignore topics that are of no interest! >> >> Eugene >> >> >> On 13 February 2014 14:41, Bosch, Juergen <jubo...@jhsph.edu> wrote: >> Let me pick up Eleanor’s comment: >> is there something like a crystallographer today ? I mean in the true sense ? >> I think as a “crystallographer” you won’t be able to survive the next >> decade, you need to diversify your toolset of techniques as pointed out in >> this article >> http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/articles/10.1038/nj7485-711a >> >> And I’m not quite sure how software developers see themselves, as I would >> argue they are typically maybe not doing so much wet lab stuff related to >> crystallography (I may be wrong here) but rather code these days. >> >> What “type” of crystallographer is a software developer ? >> >> I think like our beloved crystals “we” come in different flavors. And we >> need to train the next generation of students with that perspective in mind. >> >> Just my two cents on a snowy day (>30cm over night) >> >> Jürgen >> ...................... >> Jürgen Bosch >> Johns Hopkins University >> Bloomberg School of Public Health >> Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology >> Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute >> 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 >> Baltimore, MD 21205 >> Office: +1-410-614-4742 >> Lab: +1-410-614-4894 >> Fax: +1-410-955-2926 >> http://lupo.jhsph.edu >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Eleanor Dodson <eleanor.dod...@york.ac.uk> >> wrote: >> >>> I agree with Frank - it keeps crystallographers modest to know how >>> challenging wet lab stuff still is.. >>> Eleanor >>> >>> On 12 February 2014 19:23, Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> It's not an e-mail bulletin board, but Researchgate seems to be quite >>>> popular for wet lab questions. IMO the Q&A section of the social network is >>>> a bit messy. That said, the quality seems to improve gradually. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Robbie >>>> >>>> Sent from my Windows Phone >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Van: Paul Emsley >>>> Verzonden: 12-2-2014 19:23 >>>> Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/02/14 15:59, George Sheldrick wrote: >>>>> It would be so nice to have a 'sister CCP' for questions aboud wet-lab >>>>> problems that have nothing to do with CCP4 or crystallographic >>>>> computing, The is clearly a big need for it, and those of us who try >>>>> to keep out of wet-labs would not have to wade though it all. >>>> >>>> >>>> FWIW, the remit of CCP4BB, held at jiscmail-central, is describes as: >>>> >>>> /The CCP4BB mailing list is for discussions on the use of the CCP4 >>>> suite, and macromolecular crystallography in general./ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thus wet-lab questions are not off-topic (not that anyone recently >>>> described them as such). >>>> >>>> Having said that, Jiscmail mailing lists are easy to set-up (providing >>>> that you can reasonably expect that the mailing list will improve >>>> knowledge sharing within the UK centered academic community) and >>>> relatively low maintenance. I, for one, would not be entirely unhappy to >>>> miss out on questions about lysis. >>>> >>>> Paul. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr Eugene Valkov >> >> Room 3N049 >> Division of Structural Studies >> >> MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology >> Francis Crick Avenue >> Cambridge Biomedical Campus >> Cambridge CB2 0QH, U.K. >> >> Email: eval...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk >> Tel: +44 (0) 1223 267358 >> > > > > --------------------------------------------- > Francis E. Reyes PhD > 215 UCB > University of Colorado at Boulder > ---------------------------------------------- > -- Dr Tim Gruene Institut fuer anorganische Chemie Tammannstr. 4 D-37077 Goettingen GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
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