My guess is that only atom pairs that are superposed to some measure of 
distance between them, are output. Can't say that I checked lsqkab code this 
weekend, but documentation does not suggest anything like that.

Is this a problem for you? note that you can use other aligners/superposers in 
CCP4, ssm or Gesamt which will output all coordinates.

Eugene

On 10 May 2014, at 21:00, <hbo...@pasteur.edu.uy>
 wrote:

> Hi Eugene, thanks for your response.
> 
> Yes, the program is LSQKAB. No aligment is pursued, the aim is just to 
> superpose models and get all the information as tables. Looking at old jobs 
> (CCP4 6.2: LSQKAB version 6.2 : 13/03/09), it seems it always did the same, 
> the results on xyz and B rms just a subset of the atoms (most) being 
> superposed are written to the log file. This is independent on the specific 
> PDB files in use (I have tested a few only)....can this be confirmed by 
> you/circumvented by the user (i.e. by changing the com file) or eventualy 
> solved?
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> H
> 
> 
> Quoting Eugene Krissinel <eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk>:
> 
>> I would say the guess is a wrong one. SS superposition is used only  as a 
>> seed for further refinement. SSM (superpose) outputs all  residues (not all 
>> atoms) and marks those which get aligned. Then,  superposition is done using 
>> aligned residues. Alignment !=  superposition.
>> 
>> As to LSQKAB, it's pure superposition, not alignment AFAIK.  Alignment 
>> should be given to LSQKAB in form of atom pairs that  should be used for 
>> superposition.
>> 
>> No idea what is wrong in this example though.
>> 
>> Eugene
>> 
>> On 9 May 2014, at 23:33, Tim Gruene wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear H,
>>> 
>>> you are referring to superpose, but your logfile lists the output from
>>> LSQKAB, which are two different programs. According to the man-page of
>>> superpose, it uses secondary structure elements for superposition, so
>>> maybe the missing atoms are those not part of a helix and not part of a
>>> strand. Just a guess.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On 05/09/2014 08:05 PM, Horacio Botti wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> Why does (if it is suppossed to do so) Superpose output results for a
>>>> subset of atoms only? See a summary of log file below (just the top
>>>> lines, data on atoms, and final data and message). In the example,
>>>> results for residues 69-76 are absent, other atoms are absent as well,
>>>> but the number of atoms that were skipped in the analysis is 0 (NUMBER
>>>> OF ATOMS EXCLUDED BY RADCHK IS     0). Of course, the atoms for these
>>>> residues are present in the pdb files and no alternative conformations
>>>> are being modeled. If you display a table from the log graph window, you
>>>> find xyz RMS for all atoms including the missed atoms. I also need info
>>>> on B RMS, which are not displayed in log graph.
>>>> 
>>>> What can I do to get a complete log file?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>> 
>>>> H
>>>> 
>>>> #CCP4I VERSION CCP4Interface 2.2.0
>>>> #CCP4I SCRIPT LOG superpose
>>>> #CCP4I DATE 09 May 2014  09:21:04
>>>> #CCP4I USER hbotti
>>>> #CCP4I PROJECT ......
>>>> #CCP4I JOB_ID 30
>>>> #CCP4I SCRATCH /tmp/hbotti
>>>> #CCP4I HOSTNAME pxf8.ipmont.lan
>>>> #CCP4I PID 8268
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ###############################################################
>>>> ###############################################################
>>>> ###############################################################
>>>> ### CCP4 6.3: LSQKAB                   version 6.3 : 13/03/09##
>>>> ###############################################################
>>>> User: hbotti  Run date:  9/ 5/2014 Run time: 09:21:04
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please reference: Collaborative Computational Project, Number 4. 1994.
>>>> "The CCP4 Suite: Programs for Protein Crystallography". Acta Cryst.
>>>> D50, 760-763.
>>>> as well as any specific reference in the program write-up.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Data line--- title ......................
>>>> Data line--- fit res MAIN 66 to 544     chain B
>>>> Data line--- match 66 to 544     chain C
>>>> Data line--- output     xyz     rms     deltas
>>>> Data line--- end
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> LSQKAB RUN
>>>>         ..................
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     OPEN FILES AS REQUESTED
>>>> Opening coordinate file of model to be moved
>>>> 
>>>> Logical name: XYZIN2  File name: ...............
>>>> PDB file is being opened on unit 1 for INPUT.
>>>> 
>>>> MATRICES DERIVED FROM CRYST1 CARD IN COORDINATE FILE
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            RF                                  RO
>>>> 
>>>>   0.010  -0.000   0.002   0.000       96.790   0.000 -19.210  -0.000
>>>>  -0.000   0.008  -0.000  -0.000        0.000 133.030   0.000   0.000
>>>>   0.000  -0.000   0.009  -0.000        0.000   0.000 106.024  -0.000
>>>>  -0.000   0.000  -0.000   1.000       -0.000   0.000  -0.000   1.000
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Logical name: XYZOUT  File name: ..................
>>>> 
>>>> Opening coordinate file of fixed model.
>>>> 
>>>> Logical name: XYZIN1  File name: ...........................
>>>> PDB file is being opened on unit 3 for INPUT.
>>>> 
>>>> MATRICES DERIVED FROM CRYST1 CARD IN COORDINATE FILE
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            RF                                  RO
>>>> 
>>>>   0.010  -0.000   0.002   0.000       96.610   0.000 -18.928  -0.000
>>>>  -0.000   0.008  -0.000  -0.000        0.000 132.960   0.000   0.000
>>>>   0.000  -0.000   0.009  -0.000        0.000   0.000 106.156  -0.000
>>>>  -0.000   0.000  -0.000   1.000       -0.000   0.000  -0.000   1.000
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> FORMATTED      UNKNOWN file opened on unit   7
>>>> 
>>>> Logical name: RMSTAB, Filename: .....................
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> FORMATTED      UNKNOWN file opened on unit   8
>>>> 
>>>> Logical name: DELTAS, Filename: ......................
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  - NO MATCH FOR WORKCD ATOM -      142CA  B  IN REFRCD FILE
>>>> 
>>>> **  ZERO OCCUPANCIES IN WORKING   SET **      0.0
>>>> **  ZERO OCCUPANCIES IN REFERENCE SET **      0.0
>>>> LSFIT
>>>> **** ATOMS IN WORKING MOLECULE(1915 TO BE REFINED)
>>>> **** ATOMS IN REFERENCE MOLECULE
>>>>    CENTROID OF "WORKING" MOLECULE  :               10.597 -61.757  22.304
>>>>    CENTROID OF "WORKING" MOLECULE  :(fractional)    0.151  -0.464   0.210
>>>>    CENTROID OF "REFERENCE" MOLECULE:               13.208 -36.008  70.253
>>>>    CENTROID OF "REFERENCE" MOLECULE:(fractional)    0.266  -0.271   0.662
>>>>    Distance between CENTROIDS      :               54.488
>>>>    Direction cosines of vector between CENTROIDS:  -0.048  -0.473  -0.880
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> NUMBER OF ATOMS EXCLUDED BY RADCHK IS     0
>>>> 
>>>>         RMS       B DISPLACEMENT =  13.133
>>>>         AVERAGE   B DISPLACEMENT =  -8.353
>>>>         RMS     XYZ DISPLACEMENT =   0.360
>>>>         AVERAGE XYZ DISPLACEMENT =   0.245
>>>>         MAXIMUM XYZ DISPLACEMENT =   4.237
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>     ROTATION MATRIX:
>>>>          -0.80795 -0.52390  0.26974
>>>>          -0.52128  0.42202 -0.74173
>>>>           0.27475 -0.73988 -0.61407
>>>> TRANSLATION VECTOR IN AS    -16.59985    12.12253    35.34469
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> TRANSLATION VECTOR IN fractions of cell edge    -0.106590
>>>> 0.091174    0.332951
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Natom2      ROTATED CDS        ATOMId2         Natom1    AtomId1
>>>> Bdiff   XYZDiff
>>>> 3906   42.25  -30.59   71.01  N   SER B       66      7814    N   C
>>>>    66   12.086    1.362
>>>> 3907   43.27  -30.91   72.03  CA  SER B       66      7815    CA  C
>>>>    66    9.649    2.287
>>>> 3908   43.70  -29.70   72.95  C   SER B       66      7816    C   C
>>>>    66   10.009    1.369
>>>> 3909   44.77  -29.07   72.82  O   SER B       66      7817    O   C
>>>>    66    7.790    1.385
>>>> 3912   42.76  -29.40   73.86  N   ARG B       67      7820    N   C
>>>>    67   11.744    1.043
>>>> 3913   42.67  -28.40   74.93  CA  ARG B       67      7821    CA  C
>>>>    67   12.507    0.564
>>>> 3914   41.65  -29.05   75.90  C   ARG B       67      7822    C   C
>>>>    67   11.896    0.390
>>>> 3915   40.61  -29.55   75.45  O   ARG B       67      7823    O   C
>>>>    67   12.607    0.716
>>>> 3923   41.99  -29.05   77.21  N   ALA B       68      7831    N   C
>>>>    68    9.604    0.386
>>>> 3924   41.22  -29.64   78.32  CA  ALA B       68      7832    CA  C
>>>>    68    9.077    0.481
>>>> 3925   39.74  -29.71   78.08  C   ALA B       68      7833    C   C
>>>>    68    2.969    0.385
>>>> 3926   39.12  -28.69   77.82  O   ALA B       68      7834    O   C
>>>>    68    4.235    0.500
>>>> 3979   23.07  -37.77   88.38  C   ALA B       76      7887    C   C
>>>>    76   14.096    0.138
>>>> 3982   22.36  -37.31   89.41  N   SER B       77      7890    N   C
>>>>    77   17.094    0.216
>>>> 3983   21.48  -38.12   90.25  CA  SER B       77      7891    CA  C
>>>>    77   19.000    0.303
>>>> 3984   20.25  -38.54   89.50  C   SER B       77      7892    C   C
>>>>    77   19.023    0.180
>>>> 3985   19.66  -39.57   89.81  O   SER B       77      7893    O   C
>>>>    77   21.129    0.226
>>>> 3988   19.85  -37.72   88.54  N   GLY B       78      7896    N   C
>>>>    78   16.028    0.157
>>>> 3989   18.67  -37.92   87.71  CA  GLY B       78      7897    CA  C
>>>>    78   15.794    0.120
>>>> 3990   18.62  -39.17   86.87  C   GLY B       78      7898    C   C
>>>>    78   14.368    0.161
>>>> 3992   17.39  -39.61   86.58  N   ASP B       79      7900    N
>>>> C       79
>>>> 
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ROTATION MATRIX
>>>>   -0.808    -0.524     0.270
>>>>   -0.521     0.422    -0.742
>>>>    0.275    -0.740    -0.614
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> PATTERSON SPHERICAL POLARS OMEGA PHI CHI  OMEGA TO AXIS ZO    PHI FROM
>>>> AXIS  XO  TO AXIS  YO
>>>> 
>>>> WHEN BETA=0 CAN ONLY DEFINE ALPHA + GAMMA .
>>>> WHEN BETA = 180 CAN ONLY DEFINE GAMMA - ALPHA.
>>>> trace -0.99999118
>>>> 
>>>> CROWTHER (Euler) ALPHA BETA GAMMA    109.98429  -127.88448    69.62775
>>>> SPHERICAL POLARS OMEGA PHI CHI     63.94224   -69.82162   179.82997
>>>> DIRECTION COSINES OF ROTATION AXIS      0.30988    -0.84322     0.43928
>>>> 
>>>> Angle between rotation axis and Centroid vector    90.16864
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ***** Note: Since this angle between rotation axis and Centroid vector
>>>> is  near to 90.0 this may represent a pure rotation ***
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> THE TRANSLATION VECTOR IN ANGSTROMS ALONG THE        ORTHONORMAL AXES IS
>>>>  -16.59985    12.12253    35.34469
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> THE TRANSLATION VECTOR IN FRACTIONS of the CELL  EDGE IS
>>>>  -0.106590    0.091174    0.332951
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    15722 ATOMS WRITTEN TO "LSQOP"
>>>> 
>>>> LSQKAB:   Normal Termination
>>>> Times: User:       1.4s System:    0.0s Elapsed:     0:01
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ###############################################################
>>>> ###############################################################
>>>> ###############################################################
>>>> ### CCP4 6.3: PDB_MERGE                version 6.3 :         ##
>>>> ###############################################################
>>>> User: hbotti  Run date:  9/ 5/2014 Run time: 09:21:05
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please reference: Collaborative Computational Project, Number 4. 1994.
>>>> "The CCP4 Suite: Programs for Protein Crystallography". Acta Cryst.
>>>> D50, 760-763.
>>>> as well as any specific reference in the program write-up.
>>>> 
>>>> Data line--- nomerge
>>>> Data line--- end
>>>> PDB file ................... has been read in.
>>>> Read in 15773 atoms from XYZIN1
>>>> PDB file /tmp/hbotti/COMP-N-TcG6PDH_30_1_pdb.tmp has been read in.
>>>> Read in 15722 atoms from XYZIN2
>>>> 
>>>> XYZIN2 will be appended to XYZIN1 keeping constituent chains separate.
>>>> 
>>>> Checking for duplication of chain A ....
>>>> ... replacing duplicated chain ID A by new_chain_id E
>>>> Checking for duplication of chain B ....
>>>> ... replacing duplicated chain ID B by new_chain_id F
>>>> Checking for duplication of chain C ....
>>>> ... replacing duplicated chain ID C by new_chain_id G
>>>> Checking for duplication of chain D ....
>>>> ... replacing duplicated chain ID D by new_chain_id H
>>>> Some chains from XYZIN2 renamed.
>>>> ........
>>>> Times: User:       0.2s System:    0.0s Elapsed:     0:00
>>>> 
>>>> #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 1
>>>> #CCP4I TERMINATION TIME 09 May 2014  09:21:06
>>>> #CCP4I TERMINATION OUTPUT_FILES  ........................
>>>> #CCP4I MESSAGE Task completed successfully
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Dr Tim Gruene
>>> Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
>>> Tammannstr. 4
>>> D-37077 Goettingen
>>> 
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>>> 
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