Dear Ben, 

It was a single crystal that was mounted. I did use IZIT dye, did not
trun blue much. Probably its a TCEp crystal. But I did try a negative
control without protein+ligand and rest everything same, the drop was
clear! 

Thank you 

Regards 

Kavya 

On 2023-02-06 22:49, Ben Bax wrote:

> Hi Kavya, More than one crystal?  
> Epitaxial growth (protein crystal growing on salt crystal or vice versa) 
> Did you try IZIT? 
> (https://hamptonresearch.com/product-Izit-Crystal-Dye-33.html). 
> 
> I have seen salt and protein crystals in the same drop before now - but not 
> growing together. 
> Ben
> 
> On 3 Feb 2023, at 22:15, CRAIG A BINGMAN 
> <000021371e2fba31-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: 
> 
> Oxidation products of TCEP crystallize in the presence of zinc ions. These 
> crystals fluoresce strongly under UV, which seems like a dirty trick, if your 
> expectation is that only protein crystals can do that. The brightfield white 
> light image of the crystals is also consistent with not-protein crystals, 
> because of the high refractive index contrast between the crystals and the 
> mother liquor. 
> 
> FROM: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of kavyashreem 
> <kavyashr...@instem.res.in>
> DATE: Friday, February 3, 2023 at 2:32 AM
> TO: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
> SUBJECT: [ccp4bb] Regarding the diffraction image 
> 
> Dear all, 
> 
> We crystallized a protein (30kDa) + ligand (by cocrystallization), in the 
> condition 10%PEG3350, 50mM Zinc acetate. 
> 
> Protein was in the buffer 20mM HEPES, 150mM NaCl, 1uM ZnCl2, 4mM TCEP, pH 8.  
> 
> Crystal:                             Crystal:                           
> crystal under UV m 
> 
> <b06fc576.png>     <e091c7fd.png>   <8ef9453e.png> 
> 
> When we collected the data at an in-house facility, it looked something like 
> this: 
> 
> <b903961d.png> 
> 
> The minimum resolution spot is around 9Ang and maximum ~2.2Ang. 
> 
> I have not come across a protein diffraction like this, nor of a salt. When I 
> ran the gel for the incubated protein (protein+ligand), there was no 
> degradation. 
> 
> Although, I was sure there is some problem with this image I tried 
> processing, which could not be, But indexing showed a unit cell  of 11Ang, 
> 11Ang, 46Ang in P3. which was quite expected for two of the axes but not the 
> third. 
> 
> Can anyone please shed some light on this diffraction image? 
> 
> How can it happen? 
> 
> Thank you 
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Kavya 
> 
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