Hi Robbie,

you are of course correct - when you join a community, you are bound by their 
rules - so if you join a server that has rules against a particular subject, 
servers pushing those subjects are prone to get defederated.

The solution (AFAIK only available in Mastodon) is to setup your own server. 
You can either pay someone a small fee ( a few EUR/month) to host your server, 
or setup your own server if you are suitably savvy (I believe a small server 
can be run on a Raspberry PI or similar) and then you are lord of your own 
dominion. You get to decide who you federate with and who you see in your local 
various feeds. You can post about whatever takes your fancy.

I realise that this particular phrase has certain Brexity connotations, but 
Mastodon's democratisation/decentralisation of social media really allows one 
to "take back control" 🫠

Best,

Dave


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From: Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 06 December 2023 07:56
To: David Briggs <david.bri...@crick.ac.uk>; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
<CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X


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Hi David,

Thank you for the Mastodon links. I like the idea of Mastodon, but many servers 
do blanket bans against other servers, particularly if these are very 
libertarian (e.g. have too much "Freeze Peach"). Your Mastodon 'heritage' seems 
to matter a lot. Nevertheless, it's good to see that engagement is growing. I 
find LinkedIn mostly useful for broadcasting, not really for engagement, so not 
really an X alternative.

Personally, I think it is a shame so many scientists left Twitter/X (or said 
they did/would). Especially if this is for activistic reasons. Yes, it is quite 
unfiltered nowadays, but I actually like to have things in the open whether I 
agree with them or not. It puts more responsibility on the community and the 
community notes help with that. Purely scientific posts don't seem to suffer 
from the new management and your timeline keeps having useful stuff as long if 
you actually engage with (not just follow) users of interest. I do use Twitter 
as a private person, not on behalf of my work. I wonder if that makes a 
difference to my experience.

It is important to note that many X alternatives are not available in the EU to 
avoid regulations (says something about those platforms). That makes Mastodon 
and X the only real options. That is, far behind the CCP4bb.

Cheers,
Robbie



> -----Original Message-----
> From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of David
> Briggs
> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 08:19
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X
>
> Hi all,
>
> I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our 
> recent papers.
>
> Views : Linkedin came out on top.
>
> Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon.
>
> X didn't really do much, last I checked.
>
> There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several
> servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed...
>
> at_struct_dot_bio
> at_mstdn_dot_science
> at_biologists_dot_social
> at_cryoEM_dot_social
> at_qoto_dot_org
> at_fediverse_dot_science
>
> Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a
> structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe) that acts a bit like a
> distribution list.
>
> Hth,
>
> Contact me off list if I can help get you started.
>
> Dave
> @xtald...@xtaldave.net
>
> (Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it 
> tripped
> the spam filter, presumably the list of servers)
>
>
>
>
>
> Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB
>
> Principal Laboratory Research Scientist
>
> Signalling and Structural Biology Lab
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> The Francis Crick Institute
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> London, UK
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> Dear colleagues,
>
> I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people have
> resigned from X.
> I  really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a 
> great
> tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping abreast of
> recent publications or pre-publications related to my research interests.
> I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months.
>
> Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific
> communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Marc
> —
> Marc GRAILLE, PhD
> DR1-CNRS
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>
>       Le 2 déc. 2023 à 10:15, Tim Grüne <tim.gru...@univie.ac.at
> <mailto:tim.gru...@univie.ac.at> > a écrit :
>
>       Hi Mark,
>       responsible people are resigning from X.
>       Cheers,
>       Tim
>
>       Am 01.12.2023 23:24, schrieb Mark J. van Raaij:
>
>
>               just came across this critique of that paper on Twitter:
>               This exciting paper shows AI design of materials, robotic
> synthesis.
>               10s of new compounds in 17 days. But did they? This paper has
> very
>               serious problems in materials characterisation. In my view it
> should
>               never have got near publication. Hold on tight let's take a look
> 😱
>               [1]
>               Robert Palgrave (@Robert_Palgrave) on X [1]
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>               but I'm not enough of an expert to judge - perhaps some
>               characterizations were wrong and a lot of the paper does
> stand.
>
>
>                       On 1 Dec 2023, at 20:51, Bryan Lepore
> <bryanlep...@gmail.com <mailto:bryanlep...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>                       Adding to that literature list a bit outside :
>                       Merchant, A., Batzner, S., Schoenholz, S.S. _et al._
>                       Quote:
>                       "... we show that graph networks trained at scale can
> reach
>                       unprecedented levels of generalization, improving the
> efficiency of
>                       materials discovery by an order of magnitude. "
>                       Scaling deep learning for materials discovery.
>                       _Nature_ (2023), November
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