With that translation (x,1/2,1/2) lots of your reflections with k and l
 Odd will be relatively weak and those zones usually have higher r factors.
Look at the plots of reflection zones in hklview and you will probably
notice weak and strong zones.

The translation will make selecting the soacegroup a bit tricky but if you
ran molrep and tested all spacegroups in the pointgroup Thst usually
clearly suggests the right one.

On Wed, 29 May 2024 at 15:05, Esko Oksanen <
0000533d495de740-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:

>   Hi Cat,
>
>   If your pseudo-centering actually leads to significant change in your
> cumulative intensity distribution, you might have a convincing explanation
> as to why the R-values would remain on the high side. I had a pseudo-body
> centered case a long time ago (https://doi.org/10.1107/s0907444906031519)
> and there the R-values remained a lot higher.
>
>   HTH,
>   Esko
>
> On 29 May 2024, at 15:48, Catherine Back <
> 0000d42dc456258a-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have collected data for a protein which solved easily to 1.6 Å using MR.
> However, during data analysis and refinement it clearly has translational
> NCS. According to Xtriage on Phenix:
> Frac. coord.: 0.072, -0.498, 0.5
> Distance to origin: 68.798
> Height relative to origin: 51.479%
> p-value (height): 5.577e-05
>
> Wilson value and L-test suggests no twinning.
>
> It solved using Molrep in ccp4i2. P2 21 21. All stats look good, but even
> after refinement (not fully and completely finalised yet) R= 0.24 and
> Rfree=0.27. Also, it appears the 2 molecules in the AU have swapped a helix
> with their respective symmetry partners. I'm pretty sure I now have the
> correct space group, and tried various others with much less success.
>
>
>    1. Will these Rfactors be 'good'/low enough to publish for a dataset
>    at 1.6Å?
>    2. Should I be doing anything else during structure solving to
>    alleviate the effects of tNCS? (I did try using Phaser to solve the
>    structure, but the stats were much worse and even though 'tNCS is present
>    correction factors were not applied'. I'm not sure why.
>
>
> Many thanks,
> Cat
>
> Dr Catherine R. Back (she/her)
> Senior Post-doctoral Research Associate
> School of Biochemistry
> University of Bristol
> UK
>
>
>
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