Dear Christian,

Sorry for repeating myself - consider to try MetalCoord which I wrote about in the thread "3 alternate position of metal ion" from the last week. It can generate restraints for metal-containing monomers.
https://github.com/Lekaveh/MetalCoordAnalysis/blob/master/tutorial/tutorial.rst

Cheers,
Martin


On 19/03/2025 12:11, Oliver Smart wrote:

Dear Tim and Christian,

The Grade Web Server and Grade2 can handle metal complexes to a limited extent. However, loading a mol2 file of the complete asymmetric unit from the polyoxometalate molecule is unlikely to produce the best set of restraints to help in refinement. Grade2 data mines the CSD, including some organometallics, but it does not have any information from the Inorganic Crystal Structure Database (ICSD). Grade2 was developed to handle organic drug-like molecules and can cope with some organometallics but is unlikely to work well for inorganics.

You are working with a derivative of ICSD 173439

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ja077837f

This is a complex structure that "confirms the embedding of an adamantane-like, Ru_4 O_6 fragment by the divacant, γ-decatungstosilicate ligand." (I had to look up divacant).

Is it sensible to treat a molecule like this as a monomer like ATP or GTP?

Might it be more productive for you to use SHELX as a refinement program (as this was used for ICSD 173439) and talk to an inorganic crystallographer about appropriate restraints?

Good luck with such an interesting study.

Best regards,

Oliver (lead developer for Grade2/GWS).


On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 at 08:25, Christian Buratto <[email protected]> wrote:

    Dear Tim,
    Thank you for your suggestion, it worked well for me!
    Best regards,

    Christian

    Il giorno mar 18 mar 2025 alle ore 11:56 Tim Gruene
    <[email protected]> ha scritto:

        On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 09:21:44 +0100
        Christian Buratto <[email protected]> wrote:

        > Dear CCP4 community,
        > I am currently trying to determine the structure of a
        > protein-polyoxometalate complex. I am using a polyoxometalate
        > molecule that is a derivative of the one deposited in the
        CCDC (ICSD:
        > 173439). I am facing difficulties in generating a restraint
        file for
        > this metal-oxo molecule that can be recognized by Phenix,
        both for
        > ReadySet and refinement jobs. I have attempted to use ACEdrg and
        > ELBOW, but all my trials have been unsuccessful. A common
        error in
        > refinement states that Phenix is unable to determine the
        energy type
        > for Ru or W atoms present in my ligand molecule. If anyone
        has any
        > suggestions or alternative approaches, I would greatly
        appreciate
        > your input! Thank you all for your time and help.
        > Best regards,
        > Christian
        >
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        Dear Christian,

        sounds like a perfect task for the grade server,
        https://grade.globalphasing.org
        in combination of babel. Usually, I generate a PDB file (e.g. with
        PLATON or SHELXL), then use babel to convert to mol2
        obabel -o mol2 -O yourligand.mol2 yourligand.pdb

        and upload the mol2-file to the grade server. This honours
        your atom
        naming. Make sure the PDB input file includes a residue name
        (which is
        easily done with SHELXL).
        Cheers,
        Tim

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