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On 8/24/2017 6:14 PM, Toby Thain via
cctalk wrote:
Please note that I said to keep things in a historical perspective and
on-topic. I don't think that is saying sexism is ok.
On a technical list with adults, I believe that when someone posts something
on-topic which has portions you do not personally like that perhaps the adult
thing is to take the points that are in-common and expand on them, leaving the
points behind that you find offensive or inappropriate. The rest will be dealt
with off-list, as I have done in the past.
*Did* you, in this instance?
Because when somebody posts such vile, wrong, offensive and harmful
essentialist hogwash, as Rod did, on a public list, I would be expecting
swift action from the moderator...
Peoples' reactions following what Rod
wrote are really bewildering me, at
least -- a moderate. I'm not quitting
the list. What would happen if for
example everyone here suddenly revealed
their political or religious or other
leanings, and it were found that that
within the membership, there were some
neo-Nazis, KKK members, or ISIL members
who happened to have a vintage computing
interest -- but who never inflicted the
membership with their ideologies?
Would there be a mass ejection?
I'm willing to bet that if everyone DID
reveal themselves, there'd be all kinds
of chaos. So, It's because we're all
here and ONLY talking about one subject,
that allows things to remain cooperative.
Isn't this why it's often advised to
never discuss politics or religion in
the workplace?
Next point: has anyone here run Rod's
observation by any actual women, just
for a reality check? Of course,
different women are going to have
different reactions to it, but it'd be
interesting.
I read his opinion as just an opinion
and an _observation_ -- not something
that he himself was inflicting on
women. It's obviously not exactly the
most modern of opinions, and suffers
from being a stereotypical
generalization, but to my older eyes, it
has a smidge of truth to it, from one
angle. In the end, though, as everyone
knows, stereotypes aren't universally
true, and at least many women will do
whatever it is they want to do regardless.
- J.
