> On Oct 6, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
> wrote:
> 
>>> These students weren't quite ready for Knuth.  They were second and third 
>>> semester.
> 
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2017, Paul Koning wrote:
>> Second and third semester of what, high school?  Anyone qualified to be in a 
>> college CS program should be able to handle Knuth.
> 
> community college, with lots of "returning to college", part-time students, 
> and adults who never had the background, but WANTED to start learning such 
> stuff.   And some students who were there specifically because they weren't 
> ready scholastically to handle a college cs program.
> Enormous variation in backgrounds and abilities.
> 
> I tried to help them get to the point where they COULD handle some Knuth.

Great.  Ok, that's different, I see  your point.

        paul

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