50 pin is usually SCSI.... I've never heard of an Ata standard that did
that... 44 pin laptop was just 40 pin + power (and maybe cable select, I
forget).

There was an 80 pin cable standard, but that used 40 pin headers and
special connectors to do primary/secondary better/faster especially for
dma...

So if it is ATA, I'm very curious to see what I missed back in the 90s...

Warner

On Sun, Mar 26, 2023, 9:33 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
wrote:

> Is anyone familiar with the 50-pin IDE interface, which I think is called
> ATA-3?  It is from around 1997-2002.   Normally IDE is 40-pin, or in
> laptops might be a 44-pin.
>
> But in a COMPAQ Presario 1220, I've come across its hard drive that is
> using this 50-pin interface (two rows of 25-pin that are quite
> small/tightly spaced - moreso than even PCMCIA).
>
> I believe it is different (electrically) than the 1.8" 50-pin interface.  I
> ordered a CF-to-50-pin adapter that is intended for those 1.8" drives, and
> it won't work on this ATA-2 port (system won't boot with it inserted).
> However, all my CF cards are larger than 2GB - so I'm not sure if that was
> the issue (don't think so, I think even with 8GB or larger it would still
> at least try to boot).
>
>
> The 2GB drive in this Presario (with the "weird' 50-pin IDE) contains
> Windows ME and Office 2000.  That's cute, but I'm not so interested in that
> - I was hoping to image that drive for archive, then install something else
> (OS2).  But I can't find any "ATA-3 to normal 40-pin IDE" adapter.
>
> I think the "6 extra pins" on this 50-pin (relative to normal 44-pin laptop
> drives of those days) -- 2 of those pins (5-6) aren't used (maybe a kind of
> key) and the 4 others (1-4) are vendor specific.  So I may just be out of
> luck here in upgrading or replacing this drive with a more modern
> solution.  But wanted to run it by the crew here before giving up.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Steve / v*
>

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