On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 10:20 PM Paul Berger via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I have seen lots of laptop drives that would fit a 50 pin connector that
> is about 2mm pitch  Looking at the back of the drive from the left there
> are 44 pins in a group then 2 pins missing and the remaining 4 are for
> selecting master and slave.
>

https://www.unitechelectronics.com/ide44pinout.gif which shows 44 pins +
the '6' extra slots
for cable select and keying. These are often called the '44 pin'
interface...

Warner


> Paul.
>
> On 2023-03-26 4:33 p.m., Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote:
> > Is anyone familiar with the 50-pin IDE interface, which I think is called
> > ATA-3?  It is from around 1997-2002.   Normally IDE is 40-pin, or in
> > laptops might be a 44-pin.
> >
> > But in a COMPAQ Presario 1220, I've come across its hard drive that is
> > using this 50-pin interface (two rows of 25-pin that are quite
> > small/tightly spaced - moreso than even PCMCIA).
> >
> > I believe it is different (electrically) than the 1.8" 50-pin
> interface.  I
> > ordered a CF-to-50-pin adapter that is intended for those 1.8" drives,
> and
> > it won't work on this ATA-2 port (system won't boot with it inserted).
> > However, all my CF cards are larger than 2GB - so I'm not sure if that
> was
> > the issue (don't think so, I think even with 8GB or larger it would still
> > at least try to boot).
> >
> >
> > The 2GB drive in this Presario (with the "weird' 50-pin IDE) contains
> > Windows ME and Office 2000.  That's cute, but I'm not so interested in
> that
> > - I was hoping to image that drive for archive, then install something
> else
> > (OS2).  But I can't find any "ATA-3 to normal 40-pin IDE" adapter.
> >
> > I think the "6 extra pins" on this 50-pin (relative to normal 44-pin
> laptop
> > drives of those days) -- 2 of those pins (5-6) aren't used (maybe a kind
> of
> > key) and the 4 others (1-4) are vendor specific.  So I may just be out of
> > luck here in upgrading or replacing this drive with a more modern
> > solution.  But wanted to run it by the crew here before giving up.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Steve / v*
>

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