The comments about the tolerance of the 7812 were right, it doesn’t appear to 
be an issue with the replacement 7812 regulator because when I tried using the 
bench PSU to feed exactly 12V to the circuit from the output of the 7812 the 
comparator still gave the wrong result. It was still wrong if I applied only 11V

 

I then looked at the value of Vz on the good and bad PSUs, when applying 12V to 
the 7812 output. That was 5.4V in both the good and bad PSUs. Where I saw a 
difference was on the -12V output, it was +0.4V on the good PSU and 0.56V on 
the bad one (the voltage varied so this was an average). I checked the voltage 
drop across the current sense resistor. It is 0.01V on the good PSU and 0.08V 
on the bad PSU, which would explain the higher positive voltage on the -12V 
output and the comparator being turned on.

 

I am wondering if there could be a problem on the -12V output circuit (PSU 
Sheet 3). I am struggling to understand the purpose of the two transistors and 
the Zener diode there, but maybe one of them should be switched on and isn’t. I 
am also unsure now as to which diode is doing the rectification (to -12V). 
Someone said it was the one attached to pin 6 of the transformer, but is that 
right? Isn’t it the Zener diode half way across the page?

 

Regards

 

Rob

 

From: Rob Jarratt <robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com> 
Sent: 02 May 2023 08:19
To: 'Mattis Lind' <mattisl...@gmail.com>; r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'General 
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Subject: RE: [cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault

 

That’s a good idea, I will try that

 

From: Mattis Lind < <mailto:mattisl...@gmail.com> mattisl...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 7:55 AM
To:  <mailto:r...@jarratt.me.uk> r...@jarratt.me.uk; General Discussion: 
On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts < <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
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Cc: Rob Jarratt < <mailto:robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com> 
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Subject: Re: [cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault

 

 

 




Not quite sure what you mean here. I had advice from a friend to bench test
the control module by providing 14V to the input of the 7812. On the good
PSU I can see the PWM operate, on the bad one the PWM is shutdown.

 

And what happens if you feed in exactly 12 V on the output of the 7812? Would 
the PWM work then? By using a lab supply you could check if the circuit is 
sensitive to variation in the 12V supply.

 

 

/Mattis

 


Regards

Rob

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