On Fri, May 24, 2024, 2:45 AM Christian Corti via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 23 May 2024, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> > On 5/23/24 12:53, Dave Dunfield via cctalk wrote:
> >>   First Personal Computer (long before IBM PC)
>
> This would go back to the 50s or earlier. The LGP-30 and comparable
> machines are considered as personal computers, too.
>

But was it called a "personal computer"? And was it designed to be
"personal"?

>>   First system Bill Gates wrote code for (long before Microsoft)
>

> Didn't he write code for DEC machines at his school before that?
>

Yes, poorly.

> I don't think the "first" applies in this case.  The MCM/70 used an 8008
> > and was complete computer with storage and display--something the MITS
> > 8800 was not.
>
> And looking beyond the Great American barrier ;-) there was the MICRAL N,
> much earlier than the MITS, and considered as the first complete
> commercial microprocessor based computer, i.e. not a kit and available to
> normal customers.
>

But it doesn't meet the other criteria Dave laid out. Most people these
days have never heard of the Micral, but even normies might've heard of the
Altair 8800 because of the very notoriety it has today because of it's
significance back then.

Sellam

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