On 9/30/24 21:03, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote:
On 9/30/2024 6:31 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 9/30/24 16:23, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
One application for devices like that would be vacuum tube power amplifiers, to delay the high voltage power supply until after the heater current has been on for a bit.

    paul

On Sep 30, 2024, at 5:21 PM, Van Snyder via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:


I have two SPST time delay 12-volt relays packaged like vacuum tubes with octal bases, Amperite models 12N010 (ten seconds) and 12C5 (five
seconds).

Another place they were used (but I think 60 second delay) was in the IBM 2314 disk system, where these delayed loading the heads until the drive had been spinning for 60 seconds or so.

Jon

Now that's an actual antique computer application, though I'm surprised they didn't use a solid state implementation.

Bob

The IBM 2314 was REALLY low tech.  There was almost no electronics in the drives!  They has a read amp, a write amp and a hydraulic "stepper motor" with mechanical detents that moved the heads in response to step in and step out pulses from the control unit.

IBM did know how to distill things down to the absolute minimum. Remember, this was developed in the early 1960s and first shipped with the first 360's in 1965.

Jon


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