Hi Jon

I restored a PDP-8 straight 8 that had a similar PSU.  I am here in New Zealand 
with 230v 50Hz.  I used a step down transformer 230v -> 110v but of course 
retained the 50hz.    It worked just fine.  I did replace the capacitor in 
question however.  They contain PCB’s so use gloves and dispose with care.

Kind regards
Brendan


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From: Jon Elson via cctalk <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 17 July 2025 at 02:50
To: Tom Hunter via cctalk <[email protected]>
Cc: Jon Elson <[email protected]>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Ferroresonant transformer mystery

On 7/16/25 09:13, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
> Recently I got a nice and complete PDP-8/s from the US. The power supply
> uses a ferroresonant transformer which in addition to the standard primary
> and secondary windings has a separate 2.3H winding connected in series to a
> 2uF 660VAC capacitor forming a resonant "tank" circuit. The transformer's
> secondary side and the resonant circuit are operated in saturation. There
> is a magnetic shunt to prevent the primary side going into saturation as
> well. It accepts a wide input voltage range, but is very sensitive to the
> input frequency of 60Hz. This is quite a nice if not elegant design for the
> period in question, but maybe not the most efficient.
>
> As I live in Australia I get 240VAC and 50Hz as opposed to the US 115VAC
> and 60Hz.
>
> I can easily convert our 240VAC to 115VAC with a step-down transformer, but
> cannot easily supply 115VAC at 60Hz. So I was considering using a step-down
> transformer to get the 115VAC, but modify the resonant "tank circuit" for
> 50Hz.
>
> Unfortunately there is some magic I don't understand. The resonant
> frequency of a LC circuit with L=2.3H and C=2uF is about 75Hz not the
> expected 60Hz.
>
> Otherwise I could just solve the standard LC resonant circuit formula for C
> and plug in 50Hz and 2.3H to get the required C.
>
> Obviously ferroresonant transformers are more complex than this former
> software engineer can grasp. Could any experienced EE with relevant
> transformer knowledge please chime in and help me understand how to
> redimension the tank circuit to use 50Hz instead of the original 60Hz input.
>
> Obviously I could replace the entire power supply with two modern switch
> mode supplies to create the two rails, but it would be really nice to keep
> the original supply and just reversibly adapt it for 50Hz.

That L is probably different when the transformer is excited
at full mains voltage and near saturation.  Of course, this
seems like it will reduce L and therefore drive the
resonance higher!

What I might do is make up a cap bank that is 1.2 X larger
than the 2 uF and power it up.  Then, measure the output
voltage, and if it is within range just use it like that.
If you want to get fancy, put it on a Variac and sweep the
input voltage.  You will note a reverse slope, as input
voltage rises through the range, output voltage will decline.

Jon

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