> On Jul 17, 2025, at 12:55 PM, Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>>> I wonder about "they were certain it would not work".  That should be a 
>>> question of fact, not belief.
> -snip-
>>  For power supply transformers, 50 vs. 60 Hz is unlikely to matter.  People 
>> with CDC mainframes that want 400 Hz power do need a solution, with 
>> motor-generators as the traditional answer.  I wonder if a VFC would work 
>> for that, perhaps with post-VFC filtering to turn the waveform into 
>> something closer to a sine wave.
>> 
>> paul
> Operating a 60Hz transformer at 50Hz will require a higher magnetizing 
> current (and flux density) in order to maintain the same operating voltage.  
> This is very likely to send the transformer into a B vs H region with reduced 
> permeability, thus creating a much more distorted magnetizing current 
> waveform with sizable peaks.  This will in turn increase primary copper 
> losses, and overheating can happen easily, depending on the transformer 
> specifics.  For power distribution and transmission transformers, this is 
> definitely a no-no.  There is a reason that 50Hz utility transformers have 
> roughly 20% more iron and copper in them than 60Hz ones.

Yes, I can see that for utility transformers, which are carefully optimized for 
the task.  But I would think that power supply transformers are likely to have 
larger margins so they aren't operated so close to the limits.

        paul

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