>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Davidsen)

>Ghod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> blathered:

>> there is a simple sollution to this then.. REMOVE bill from the list. :)
>> when 100's need to get mail cause one doesn't wanna fix something the 1 can go
>> away.
>> I get enough mail from all the lists, I don't need extra from a lasy SOB.

First: I aam not able to remove somebody from the list nor do I like to do this
with Bill. 

>  No one but Joerg ever gets any bounces, and then only when he insists
>on sending me mail directly instead of to the list. If you think for one
>moment that an ISP with 3 million users is going to turn off SPAM
>filtering because one person can't send mail... And note that after I
>have asked that he stop sending me mail directly most ISPs would
>consider it a violation of TOS if someone continued sending mail.

The problem is that nobody would care if the data which the spam filtering
is based on is not based itself on nonserious sources. But ORBS _is_ a nonserous 
source because it lists sites that are 100% spam (relay) free but did protest 
against spamming (intensive relay experiments) done by ORBS people.

Jörg

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