I'm pretty sure that if it ever came down to the gov't calling on the
citizens to pick up a gun and defend the country, it'd be a pretty dark day,
we've got the strongest military in the county, I'm pretty sure anybody
owning a gun just in case they'll get tapped, will be waiting a long time.
J.
John Wilker
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"Pessimism - Every dark cloud has a silver lining, but lightning kills
hundreds of people each year who are trying to find it." ~despair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:09 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Violent education
Actually, historical speaking the right to bear arms was included in the
bill of rights so that people could protect themselves from their own
government, not from criminals or animals. Also at that time, we had a very
small standing army with the thought that if needed the people would rise up
in the defense of the country as a citizen army. Hence the need for citizens
with firearms.
Now, I am a firm believer in individual rights and I'm not willing to give
up those rights for 'government protection'. Whether those rights be the
freedom to write this email, listen to ozzy osbourne, play doom, or own a
gun.
-george
>From: "John Wilker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Violent education
>Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 11:36:55 -0700
>
>Well on that token, if we're getting rid of things that are detrimental and
>bad, we're abolishing the right to bear arms and making guns illegal. I'm
>sure hunters can get back into the spirit of hunting and pick up a bow and
>arrow and since I've yet to see any solid evidence that owning a gun
>increases lifespan or cleans up neighborhoods, but I have seen evidence
>that
>many innocent children and adults are killed without need, then guns must
>go.
>
>Which is fine with me. Although I could take the extreme hard line attitude
>many NRA'ers take
>
>
>You can take this game when you pry it from my cold dead hands... Isn't
>that
>how it goes LOL
>
>Eventually we'll all need small scale tactical nukes to protect ourselves
>from the deer and the criminals... I'm waiting for that day.
>
>J.
>
>John Wilker
>Web Applications Consultant
>Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
>
>www.red-omega.com <http://www.red-omega.com>
>
>"Pessimism - Every dark cloud has a silver lining, but lightning kills
>hundreds of people each year who are trying to find it." ~despair.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Nitterauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:13 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Violent education
>
>
>Sure if you call self serving working to create a safer and kinder society
>-
>guilty as charged. Society exists for the good of the whole society, not to
>pander to the few vocal ones who bitch about their personal freedoms no
>matter how detrimental to the society as a whole they may be. I have no
>interest in doing anything to stop the game makers. Again, masking the
>symptoms won't do a damn thing. Again, cut the politically correct bull
>shit. If something is detrimental and bad, get rid of it. Its simple. Most
>of these games serve no real purpose beyond mindless entertainment. If you
>like the games, fine enjoy. But again be willing to live with the
>consequences of the very ideals you are defending. I think there are some
>wonderful games out there and I enjoy playing some of them from time to
>time. I don't live my life for them nor would I fall into a deep depression
>if they were suddenly unavailable. I would rather spend my time mentoring a
>child who needs an adult in their life or working with various community
>organizations to help make the area in which I live a friendlier and safer
>place for all.
>
>Jim Nitterauer
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:00 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Violent education
>
>
>| Why are people defending these hideous games? Its not the games that
>matter.
>
>Because some people happen to like these games. Because some people are
>getting tired of having everything in the world taken away or censored by
>self-serving special intrest groups who feel compelled to force their
>morals
>on the rest of the world.
>
>| Cut the politically correct bull shit and start believing in , standing
>up
>for and
>| practicing what is right.
>
>This is why people are defending those games ;)
>
>Todd
>-----
>Every Jedi knows ... Sith happens!
>
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