(I'm baaack...CFMX launch complete)
>ive resisted as long as I could.
>
>do you really think that saddam hussein, and his cronies would have ever
>
>concieved of a democratic iraq where peoples hopes and dreams and
>freedoms could
>be expressed through the many various media that will soon be available
>to them?
>
>I cannot.
>
>do you really think that saddam hussein and his cronies were going to
>ever create a nation
>built upon humane values, rid of violence, corruption and who knows what
>else the idiot was up to?
>
>I do not.
>
>can you do me this, fathom for one second, the ability to do these
>things...
>
>1. wake up in the morning when you have to get ready for your full time,
>health insurance covered, lunch in the peaceful cafeteria job.
>2. get in your car
>3. drive to work
>4. listen to free radio along the way
>5. browse the internet from your office on the 5th floor of an all glass
>building looking down upon a beautiful city teeming with other folks,
>doing the same thing.
>6. enjoy the freedom of religion
>7. enjoy the freedom of speech
>8. enjoy the freedom of freedom it fucking self
>
>now...just you forget that whole idea...and welcome to iraq, pre-bush,
>pre-liberation, pre-democracy
>
>1. you cant do any of the above
>
>hmmm...
>
>does that suck or what? I think so.
>
>so, I guess my point is this....
>
>for the love of all that is good (thanks for the line dave watts) maybe
>we have yet to find any hard evidence of WMD's. mybe we havent been as
>prudent in our actions, maybe we didn't really imagine the insurgency we
>are currently battling, yes the deaths of american soldiers, iraqi
>civilians and myriad other peoples from many different nations really
>sucks...really, I couldn't imagine the horror that the bergs feel, the
>johnsons, the family of kim sun-il, but... the big but is....
>
>its going to be better. its going to be a fruitful place, where freedom
>reigns...good will eventually take over, and the world, yes, not just
>the USA, the WORLD will be a much, much better place.
>
>it pains me to hear some of my fellow americans, so harshly criticize a
>man, who remember is a human and -- human = fallible, who is just trying
>to do the right thing. he didn't ask for 9/11 to happen, he didn't ask
>for his people to be attacked by militant islamic jihadists, he didn't
>really ask to be doing any of this....it was all thrown upon him.
>
>I can distinctively remember the day I decided I was going to vote for
>Mr. Bush, it was just after the second debate that he and al gore held
>on national tv. he mentioned many things, but one thing stood clear in
>my mind, he was intently set on protecting americas, being a guider of
>america into a new century, and give everyone some tax breaks. then
>there was this last thing, that really piqued my interest...he spoke of
>his desire to draw back american presence around the world, and retire
>ourselves from "nation building" and focus domestically. I was SEVERLY
>impressed. I couldn't turn back. He convinced me. obviously he had to
>adapt and overcome, and like my pit bull rocky says...if you fuck with
>my dad...get ready, pack ur lunch and bring some friends...cause there
>going to be an ass whoopin tonight. (sorry I digress sometimes, its mike
>t's fault)
>
>http://www.antiwrap.com/?115
>(debate transcript, interesting read, a great couple of paragraphs are
>below, isnt it wild to read this, pre 9/11, where israel and three
>soldiers in syria, or some strange stuff like that, were the cats
>meow...gore wont get off israel in the debate..)
>
>---------begin transcript----------
>
>October 11, 2000
>The Second Gore-Bush Presidential Debate
>Commission on Presidential Debates
>www.debates.org
>
>MODERATOR: Let's go through some of the specifics now. New question.
>Vice President Gore, the governor mentioned the Middle East. Here we're
>talking at this stage in the game about diplomatic power that we have.
>What do you think the United States should do right now to resolve that
>conflict over there?
>
>GORE: The first priority has to be on ending the violence, dampening
>down the tensions that have arisen there. We need to call upon Syria to
>release the three Israeli soldiers who have been captured. We need to
>insist that Arafat send out instructions to halt some of the provocative
>acts of violence that have been going on. I think that we also have to
>keep a weather eye toward Saddam Hussein because he is taking advantage
>of this situation to once again make threats, and he needs to understand
>that he's not only dealing with Israel, he is dealing -- he's dealing
>with us if he is making the kind of threats that he's talking about
>there. The use of diplomacy in this situation has already, well, it goes
>hour-by-hour and day-by-day now. It's a very tense situation there. But
>in the last 24 hours there has been some subsiding of the violence
>there. It's too much to hope that this is going to continue, but I do
>hope that it will continue. Our country has been very active with
>regular conversations with the leaders there. And we just have to take
>it day-to-day right now. But one thing I would say where diplomacy is
>concerned, Israel should feel absolutely secure about one thing. Our
>bonds with Israel are larger than agreements or disagreements on some
>details of diplomatic initiatives. They are historic, they are strong,
>and they are enduring. And our ability to serve as an honest broker is
>something that we need to shepherd.
>
>MODERATOR: Governor?
>
>BUSH: Well, I think during the campaign, particularly now during this
>difficult period, we ought to be speaking with one voice, and I
>appreciate the way the administration has worked hard to calm the
>tensions. Like the vice president, I call on Chairman Arafat to have his
>people pull back to make the peace. I think credibility is going to be
>very important in the future in the Middle East. I want everybody to
>know should I be the president Israel's going to be our friend. I'm
>going to stand by Israel. Secondly, that I think it's important to reach
>out to moderate Arab nations, like Jordan and Egypt, Saudi Arabia and
>Kuwait. It's important to be friends with people when you don't need
>each other so that when you do there's a strong bond of friendship. And
>that's going to be particularly important in dealing not only with
>situations such as now occurring in Israel, but with Saddam Hussein. The
>coalition against Saddam has fallen apart or it's unraveling, let's put
>it that way. The sanctions are being violated. We don't know whether
>he's developing weapons of mass destruction. He better not be or there's
>going to be a consequence should I be the president. But it's important
>to have credibility and credibility is formed by being strong with your
>friends and resoluting your determination. One of the reasons why I
>think it's important for this nation to develop an anti-ballistic
>missile system that we can share with our allies in the Middle East if
>need be to keep the peace is to be able to say to the Saddam Husseins of
>the world or the Iranians, don't dare threaten our friends. It's also
>important to keep strong ties in the Middle East, credible ties, because
>of the energy crisis we're now in. After all, a lot of the energy is
>produced from the Middle East, and so I appreciate what the
>administration is doing. I hope to get a sense of should I be fortunate
>to be the president how my administration will react to the Middle East.
>
>---------end transcript----------
>
>My point is this...he is doing a job, that neither one of us could do
>any better, no matter how much our ego may tell us different...get past
>the party lines, get off his back, it's a tough freakin job taking care
>of the quarter billion people we have in this illiterate, obese and
>overall impatient and pretentious society we live in, we're not perfect
>either...no one is...
>
>and that's how I became a republican :)
>
>tony
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