Al Qaeda ATTACKED US. DIRECTLY. THIS IS PROVEN (THEY ADMITTED IT).
Al Qaeda's leadership was BASED IN AFGHANISTAN.
Ergo, that invasion was not pre-emptive. That invasion was a direct armed
response to aggression against our country, within our own borders. That
invasion was undertaken with worldwide (for the most part) support.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:40 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Know Your Enemy
whats the difference?
corrupt leaders?
oppression?
unequal rights for women?
terrorist breeding ground?
unable to care for themselves in ousting a corrupt ruler?
come on.
if the insurgency sprouted there, like it did in iraq...it would be the
same bitching.
you cant plan around psychotic religiously driven maniacs...you just
cant, you adapt and overcome, the best you can, and you move on.
...tony
tony weeg
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:30 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Know Your Enemy
Tim, I personally don't have a problem with us going into Afganistan.
It seems the world didn't have a problem with us going into
Afganistan. They have had some issues with us going into Iraq though
and that's where my complaints are.
Marlon
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 11:20:04 -0400, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am a pretty senior guy in the office of the CTO at the U.S.
Department of
> State.
>
> I am going to Afghanistan.
>
> My team leader worked for Clarke when he was the CT head at the white
house.
> He is now a senior federal employee in DOD
>
> He is going to Afghanistan.
>
> My battalion commander is a lobbyist.
>
> He is going to Afghanistan.
>
> I admit that I have some problems with Iraq and how we got there. I
wish it
> was ok for us to say that oil is of vital national interest. I wish
that
> Bush's dad had done the right thing and gone on to Baghdad back in 91.
I
> wish that we had simply said that he is not meeting the requirements
of the
> cease fire and used that. However I do feel that we needed to go.
>
> Anyone here that thinks we don't need to be in Afghanistan should read
two
> books. The first is called Taliban and was written by a Pakistani
> journalist, the second is called Ghost Wars and goes over Americas
> activities in the region for the last 50 years or so. Also we need to
> remember that with Afghanistan, they came here. After Pearl Harbor 18
> million Americans enlisted in the military to fight against tyranny.
We
> lost more people on 9/11 than we did on 6/7 (if you don't know the
date,
> look it up).
> SPC Timothy Heald
> Javelin Gunner
> B co 3-116th Infantry(Light)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:44 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Know Your Enemy
>
> I've missed this entire thread but I'll put in my 2 cents. Moore's
> 'film' is straight up propaganda designed to manipulate the facts to
> where he wants them to be. Doesn't matter that you come away not
> knowing where he wants you to be. Point is, he presents things out
of
> context to make them seem what he wants.
> He was interviewing senators and asking them to sign a petition to
> send their kids to Afghanistan. One senator is shown doing a double
> take and it's basically presented as if he didn't want to. Truth is
> (when the full piece is shown, not in the movie) that he agreed and
> said that his son WAS in Afghanistan. This was cut out as it took
away
> from Moore's 'point' of the elite (i.e. political people) not
putting
> their kids in harms way.
> This is not a movie, not a documentary, it's straight up media
> manipulation. But that's what Moore's been doing for a bit of time
> now.
>
> Now, if anyone wants to debate me on this, please feel free. If
anyone
> wants to call me an idiot, moron, or whatever, then it just proves
> them unable to bring a rational argument. I think that we as a
> community can debate and disagree politely.
>
>
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