specific religions were being debated when this nation was founded, it was
still mainly assumed that we were created. God as creator is mentioned in
many historical documents including the declaration of independence and the
constitution. Simply saying the word god is not the same as forming a state
religion.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 2:20 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Speaking of church and state
It claims that this nation is under god, and the words of the pledge were
setup in a law, and many states have laws requiring that it be recited by
the students.
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From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 2:47 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Speaking of church and state
Whether the Pledge is prayer is still being debated.
how can that be debated...it's not prayer :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 2:37 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Speaking of church and state
As I said, prayer IS legal in public schools. MANDATED prayer is what
is illegal. That was decided by the Supreme Court in the 1960s.
Whether the Pledge is prayer is still being debated.
-Kevin
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:21:10 -0400, Monique Boea
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't think it always has been
>
> We said the lords prayer along with the pledge in school
>
> It was illegal then?
>
> Actually I went to private school grades 1-8 (catholic)
>
> Sorry :)
>
> But has it always been illegal for public schools?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 2:19 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Speaking of church and state
>
> Prayer in schools is indeed legal. It always has been, and should be.
> However, schools cannot _mandate_ prayer because that would be
> "regarding an establishment of religion". Same with the ten
> commandments. Posting them on government property would be
> establishing a state religion AND preventing the free practice of
> other's religions, both of which are prohibited by those exact words
> in the Constitution and by Supreme Court rulings.
>
> The intent is to protect people's choice of religion, not to ban all
> religion. Banning religion would be against the Constitution.
>
> -Kevin
>
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:01:24 -0400, Monique Boea
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > this is what some people use in the removal of the ten commandments
from
> > public places and prayer in schools arguments.
> _____
>
>
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