in 1954 to specifically add "under God" after lobbying by the Knights
of Columbus and other religious institutions to make it a prayer in
order to counter the "godless" communists.
-Kevin
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:46:39 -0400, Monique Boea
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Whether the Pledge is prayer is still being debated.
>
> how can that be debated...it's not prayer :)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 2:37 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Speaking of church and state
>
> As I said, prayer IS legal in public schools. MANDATED prayer is what
> is illegal. That was decided by the Supreme Court in the 1960s.
> Whether the Pledge is prayer is still being debated.
>
> -Kevin
>
> On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:21:10 -0400, Monique Boea
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think it always has been
> >
> > We said the lords prayer along with the pledge in school
> >
> > It was illegal then?
> >
> > Actually I went to private school grades 1-8 (catholic)
> >
> > Sorry :)
> >
> > But has it always been illegal for public schools?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 2:19 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Speaking of church and state
> >
> > Prayer in schools is indeed legal. It always has been, and should be.
> > However, schools cannot _mandate_ prayer because that would be
> > "regarding an establishment of religion". Same with the ten
> > commandments. Posting them on government property would be
> > establishing a state religion AND preventing the free practice of
> > other's religions, both of which are prohibited by those exact words
> > in the Constitution and by Supreme Court rulings.
> >
> > The intent is to protect people's choice of religion, not to ban all
> > religion. Banning religion would be against the Constitution.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 14:01:24 -0400, Monique Boea
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > this is what some people use in the removal of the ten commandments
> from
> > > public places and prayer in schools arguments.
> > _____
> >
> >
> _____
>
>
>
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