And I consider the NRA way to moderate for my tastes. Much prefer gun
owners of America.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: 2nd Amendment (Was: Speaking of church and state)
Seriously though the only other issue I've ever seen cause so much
rancour has been religiously based arguments, like religion, abortion
etc. So generally these days I prefer to avoid arguments on religion.
Besides have you ever seen how the more fanatical NRA members (like
LaPierre) treat the issue. I swear these people put their rifle/pistol
etc with their Teflon bullets on an altar each night and bow down and
pray to them.
larry
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:44:25 -0400, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's funny, government basically is my religion :)
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:37 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: 2nd Amendment (Was: Speaking of church and state)
>
> Please no arguments on religion.
>
> larry
>
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:25:56 -0400, Nick McClure
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I agree, however, the federal government has few laws on these
matters,
> only
> > getting in to the realm of assault and military grade weapons.
> >
> > In Kentucky for instance we have very few gun laws, the only
> restrictions
> > are for handguns for juveniles, and non-law enforcement having guns
on
> > school grounds.
> >
> > Here a 16 year old can legally purchase an assault rifle without his
or
> her
> > parent's permission.
> >
> > http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.php?st=ky
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:55 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: 2nd Amendment (Was: Speaking of church and state)
> >
> > Amendment I
> > Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or
> > prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
> speech,
> > or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble,
and
> to
> > petition the government for a redress of grievances.
> >
> > [TIM] This amendment has been used to give everything from privacy
to
> > abortion. It has been construed in almost every case to expand the
> rights
> > of the individual.
> >
> > Amendment II
> >
> > A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
> state,
> > the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
infringed.
> >
> > [TIM] This amendment has been said to be a right of the states.
Mind
> you
> > all of the other rights outlined in the bill of rights were those of
the
> > individual. The second clause of the sentence is the one I feel has
> been
> > mainly ignored "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall
not
> be
> > infringed". I all other cases the phrase "the people" means the
> individual.
> > Therefore there should be no laws in regards to firearms.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
>
>
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