mark,
I think he means the over reliance on technology that many perceive the
American forces to have.
larry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:30 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: George W. Bush
>
>
> I, by no means, am privy to their readiness or have any inside
> information as far as Delta is concerned, other than I've trained with
> them in the past and understand their capabilities. I know
> the CIA has a
> military arm, but I don't know their capabilities. Spy sattelites are
> good, to a point, but I agree that more human intel is needed. I agree
> that the SAS will be involved and will be a great asset as they were
> during the gulf war.
>
> What do you mean by, "gone the route of the Americans..."?
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:02 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: George W. Bush
>
>
> From my understanding, Delta Force and other American special Op's may
> be
> well trained but have had little or no real action. Also, the CIA have
> relied heavily and almost exclusively on technology (spy sats etc) to
> gain
> intelligence. On the ground intelligence or operatives are a different
> matter, and essential for these kind of operations. I wouldn't be
> surprised
> to see MI5 and the SAS involved in these actions. The one
> advantage of
> having to deal with the IRA over the years is that we haven't gone the
> route
> of the Americans when it comes to these things.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 20 September 2001 14:28
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: George W. Bush
>
>
> Wars, battles, conflicts, whatever you want to call them are not clean
> and innocent. You have to remember who you're dealing with. We're not
> dealing with rational people and this is not conventional. In dealing
> with normal, rational, civilized nations, you can deal with them in a
> much different way, such as sanctions. But terrorists conduct
> themselves
> in a much different way. For this reason, this "war against terrorism"
> will be fought like no other war we've seen. This is unconventional
> warfare in the truest sense. Sure, there will be strategic
> bombings. But
> for the most part, you'll see or hear of sergical strikes by people on
> the ground with use of Special Ops teams like Special Forces, Rangers,
> Seals and Delta Force and a few others that you didn't even knew
> existed. Being a former member of the Special Ops community
> in my former
> life, I can say that any strike we do will be well planned and very
> surgical. Some will succeed and some will not. But believe me, our
> forces will not be going in blindly. I applaud our leaders,
> military and
> civilian, for the jobs they're doing.
>
> As far as innocent civilians being killed... It's unavoidable. Our
> military and government leaders will do everything possible
> to limit the
> killing of innocent people.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 2:48 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: George W. Bush
>
>
> What I'm saying is that it is not a weakness. I don't know
> what the best
>
> response to this situation actually is, but without some
> discussion and
> objections to bad ideas, no one may ever find the best
> solution. I just
> want a solution that won't perpetuate the problem and it seems that we
> aren't headed in that direction.
>
> Besides, if we want to show people around the world that we really
> aren't
> as evil and oppressive as people say, can we do that by
> showing a united
>
> front? Some of the people who hate us hate us because our people don't
> object to people in their countries being killed. That's how they can
> say
> that we are all evil, not just some of us. Well, maybe it's
> time that we
>
> showed them that some of us object to that.
>
> I don't want innocent people killed and if I don't say that, it seems
> like
> I don't object to it. I'm not going to say that I agree with
> a plan that
>
> kills innocent people because it is my American duty to do so. It's my
> American duty to say I object if I object.
>
> At 01:59 PM 9/18/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >yes, our freedom of speech is one of our valued treasures.....
> everyone is
> >intitled to their own opinions, this is part of what we are fighting
> for.
> >
> >all I am saying is that when at war, I don't want my enemy to see any
> of my
> >weakness.
> >
> >I think that picking on each others beliefs and opinions has
> a time and
> a
> >place.... I think it is called a debate....
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jennifer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:25 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: George W. Bush
> > >
> > > At 11:10 AM 9/18/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >personally, I think Lee has it right......
> > > >
> > > >but, with the horror that struck our nation last week shouldn't
> this be a
> > > >time for all of us to band together regardless of our political
> > > >affiliations? is it only me that thinks that this is
> not the time
> for
> > > us
> > > >to be quarreling amongst ourselves, instead we should
> try to rally
> behind
> > > >our leaders (whether we agree with them or not) and show a united
> front?
> > >
> > > That depends on what you think that will accomplish. The
> best thing
> about
> > > showing a united front right now is that it scares the heck out of
> some
> > > people we want to scare the heck out of right about now. But it is
> > > extremely important that everyone in this country who
> disagrees with
> these
> > >
> > > things be allowed to say that they disagree. What is so
> great about
> > > freedom
> > > of speech if you can't exercise it in times of trouble?
> > >
> > >
> > > Now available in a San Francisco Bay Area near you!
> > > http://www.blivit.org/mr_urc/index.cfm
> > > http://www.blivit.org/mr_urc/resume.cfm
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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