Michael, you have the ability to learn about and use a more secure Operating
system, but you probably still use Windows don't you?  Have you tried to
manipulate the Windows code so that your machine will be more secure?
There's a certain level of trust people put into things.  When you drive a
car, you don't necessarily have to know how the engine works, you implicitly
trust that it will work.  This is the same thing that's happening with
"normal" users.  The computer isn't much more than really complicated remote
control or some other common gadget.  This isn't their fault though.  I
blame MS.  They market WinXP to look and feel very simple.  A consumer OS
shouldn't require all of the maintenance that WinXP requires.  

I think you have an elitist attitude towards end users, but I'm sure that
the people who create cars, Tivos, iPods, cell phones, etc all have similar
attitudes.  

Marlon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:56 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: On stupidity & Michael Dinowitz
>
> Apples and basketballs. I have no real choice about being 5' 7.5" and
> Shaq
> has no real choice in being the skyscraper that he is. On the other hand,
> everyone has the ability to read something about the internet before
> going
> on. But your right. Most end users are not stupid. They're lazy. They
> wander
> into a place which is dangerous without any knowledge and get
> scammed,
> spammed, or infected with viruses. Does not make them stupid for
> walking
> into the net without any knowledge. Guess they'll wander into a swamp
> next
> without a map. Or use their CPU as a coffee warmer. :)
> As for responsability, it is our responsability to do our jobs. If this
> includes making the internet easier for end users, then so be it. My job
is
> to make information available to people in order to make their job easier
> and advance the use of CF. (actually, the job I get paid for is to make
> sites work faster and smoother, but that's back end). The job of an end
> user
> (in my mind) is to take 3 seconds to read some instructions, warnings or
> whatever. I and about everyone else here can say at least one story
> about an
> end user who got burnt and it was all their own fault. Just read User
> Friendly and you'll see what I mean (check out the Cthulhu ones for
> specifics). Yes, the stars were right for Cthulhu to eat the heads off of
> some spammers. :)
>
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