Yea i remember how i almost shit myself when i heard him say he was going to do his faith based initiative's. To me watching him in 2000 he said hew as a religious guy but i must have missed the point where he would try to bring church and state together.
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:59:25 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill wrote: > > When did a liberal become a bad thing? :> > > During the 80s and, in my opinion, liberals then *were* a bad thing. > While I respect Mr. Dukakis' views, I think he would've made a > horrible President. For me the good news was that his loss crushed > the liberal, "Great Society", delusions and opened the door for more > moderate positions. > > Mr. Clinton picked up that baton and transformed the Democratic party > - while he was still generally for Federal government programs to fix > social problems, he added a new twist: no middle class taxes and > fiscal responsibility to pay for them. > > So, for example, it was Mr. Clinton's idea that by paying down the > debt the US could use the money that was being spent to service the > debt to pay for his programs. When he proposed raising taxes on the > upper 2% in 1992, supply siders claimed it would destroy the planet, > yet it had the opposite effect - it created the largest economic > expansion in US history. > > The neo-cons have decided that the lesson didn't exist and so have > taken a "tax cuts fix everything" approach; the same tired 100% supply > side theory. They've done this despite the fact that they aren't > cutting spending to pay for tax cuts (which makes the tax cut just new > spending, i.e., a government program!). > > Further they've decided to add additional spending, claiming that once > the tax cut boom kicks in, the growing economy will pay for the loans > from Europe, Asia, and Saudi Arabia primarily. > > It's been 3 years and that hasn't happened which is why some > economists are claiming the tax cuts weren't big enough - they are the > die hard supply siders. Remember Mr. Bush's "we're turning the > corner" campaign slogan in June? What happened to that? The neo-cons > are constantly claiming "the tax cuts are kicking in ..." and then > they don't. > > Add to that the coming pensioner crisis and you've got a real mess. > (You can't grow out of the social security mess because social > security is tied to inflation *and* wages, i.e., as the economy grows > so do its liabilities) > > I think Mr. Bush's defeat will vindicate the fiscally conservative > Republicans and hopefully finally squash the neo-cons, just as Mr. > Dukakis' loss squashed Great Society liberalism. > > The end result will hopefully be 2 parties that understand that you > can't be fiscally irresponsible and secure at the same time. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=34 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:131674 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54