One other thing - ::presses play on CD::
There's battle lines bein' drawn. Nobody's right if everybody's wrong. Young people speakin' their minds gettin' so much resistance from behind. I think it's time we stop. Hey, what's that sound? Everybody look what's goin' down. On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 22:56:12 -0500, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the states where Gay Marriage was on the ballot, it was a big margin in a > number of states. But isn't this part of a government by the people. 75% to > 25% here in Kentucky. > > The President was reelected with a majority of the popular vote as well, > something that hasn't happened in 16 years, these are things that are very > interesting, it seems that the large turnout this year were the republicans > that didn't come out 4 years ago, and this time they weren't going to let > what happened last time cause problems this time. > > Is it any surprise what has happened? Bush stood strong, and never changed > his story, or even the way he told it. Even if you don't think Kerry changed > his mind, you have to admit that he didn't always sound sure of himself, you > could tell he didn't care for the Bush policies, but it was hard for me to > tell if the stuff he was saying was what he believed, or just what he was > told to say. While Bush may very well have been told to say it, you could > tell the he thought it was right, and more than right, he made it look like > his ideas should be common sense. > > Bush is a smart man, regardless of what people say, he may not be a good > politician, but he is a very good sales man, and he was able to sell the > country on his ideas. Not only was he responsible for one of the biggest > turnouts in a long time, he managed to get a high turnout to come up in > favor of a Republican and an incumbent, some that historically has been > fairly hard. > > I think what we have seen here is that the American people want the > freedoms, but they also want to ensure that their communities maintain a > moral standard they are comfortable with. We don't really care what > individuals from other countries think. We are talking about the image the > US wants to portray, and to us cowboy isn't a bad word. > > I was talking to a guy from Switzerland a while back, he said that it was a > bad thing that the rest of the world saw our President as a Cowboy. He meant > that as an insult to him. I really didn't know what to think. Growing up we > thought a Cowboy was a good thing, I really didn't have a reply to that, I > just thought 'So What'. > > In a country where the people are the government, we elect representatives > to write the laws and to vote while we perform the tasks that keep our > civilization going. We cannot separate Politics from our Culture; this > country was founded out of political strife. Our culture and our way of life > grew out of a general distrust for overly powerful politicians and monarchs. > We determined that we the people hold the key, but at the same time we must > continue with the Business of running society, and elect others to run the > country, however we have maintained that at least once a year we have a > chance to address some of the people we have elected, we can determine if we > agree with them, not just politically, but morally, socially, culturally, > and in some cases we just might not like they way they smile, or laugh, we > have the freedom in the country to base our ideas on the most meaningless of > principles to most important issues a society will ever face. > > So long as we continue to be Humans, we will never separate our politics > from our culture, our culture from our morals, and our morals from our > politics. To do so would be a disservice to our foundation and our own > souls. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:09 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Election: Political or Cultural? > > There's been much talk about how exit polls showed "values" equal to > or higher than Iraq, terrorism, or the economy. And there is no > doubt that the Republican's victory last night was stunning. > > But, to me, something seems different this time. This time it seems > as if the election was cultural rather than political. We've seen the > trouncing of Gay Marriage and the emergence of religion as policy > rather than policy based on ethics and ethics flowing from religion. > > Maybe this is controversial, but if it's true that a majority of > people in this country want a more Christian governed country, a > country with the 10 commandments in government buildings, "under God" > in our pledge, and the elimination of "activist judges" who are > "activist" because they don't agree with the President, well, I have > to wonder if that's a people that share my values. > > Certainly I love the freedoms we have, but I feel as if they're being > eroded or, more accurately, given away by 51% of this country. > > Maybe things will drift back to a more ecumenical position in 2 or 4 > years, but from where I stand we're at the doorstep of an American > cultural revolution and, based on the election last night, I'm in the > minority. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| The annual ColdFusion User Conference is being held Sat 6/26 - Sun 6/27/04 8am-5pm in the Washington DC Area. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=44 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:134005 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
