Don't shout, you nearly scared the enlightenment out of me! -----Original Message----- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 November 2004 23:28 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion)
MU! On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:07:14 -0000, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I get you now, I'm interested in this for two reasons - there has > been a very good documentary series on BBC Four recently called "The History > of Disbelief" which discussed a lot of the issues about religion and > atheism, there's a site about the program at > http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/atheism.shtml which > features a quiz. > > The second reason is that I am a Buddhist, which is an odd religion in many > ways but especially in that there is no belief in a creator. In fact the > existence of one seems to be incompatible with the idea of Dependant > Arising, which is central to the Buddha's teachings. It's a bit of a tough > one to explain quickly, but basically it's that all that we think of as > "things" exist only as the result of other things, and that nothing > inherently exists. That's as clear as mud reading it back, if you are > interested I'll try to explain it better tomorrow when I haven't been > working for 12 hours. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 November 2004 16:29 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion) > > No, it's not that argument at all. Complexity isn't a sign of God. My > mortgage process was complex, and I can say with complete certainty that God > had nothing to do with my re-fi. > > Jim Campbell's response was very interesting. I think his implication that > maybe the idea of "creation" can't be known by us at this time is > interesting. I think i'm willing to submit that something outside of my > understanding, and maybe human understanding period, prompted creation as we > understand it. I think i'm willing to refer to this process or being or > event or whatever....as God. > > Takes all that religious stuff away...but still leaves me with a belief in a > "God". > > > That sounds like the universe is so complex it must have been designed > > argument, there is something on it here: > > > > http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/arguments.html#design > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:137745 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
