mu :)

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 11:14:40 -0000, Wayne Putterill
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't shout, you nearly scared the enlightenment out of me!
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 23 November 2004 23:28
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion)
> 
> MU!
> 
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:07:14 -0000, Wayne Putterill
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think I get you now, I'm interested in this for two reasons - there has
> > been a very good documentary series on BBC Four recently called "The
> History
> > of Disbelief" which discussed a lot of the issues about religion and
> > atheism, there's a site about the program at
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/atheism.shtml which
> > features a quiz.
> >
> > The second reason is that I am a Buddhist, which is an odd religion in
> many
> > ways but especially in that there is no belief in a creator. In fact the
> > existence of one seems to be incompatible with the idea of Dependant
> > Arising, which is central to the Buddha's teachings. It's a bit of a tough
> > one to explain quickly, but basically it's that all that we think of as
> > "things" exist only as the result of other things, and that nothing
> > inherently exists. That's as clear as mud reading it back, if you are
> > interested I'll try to explain it better tomorrow when I haven't been
> > working for 12 hours.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 23 November 2004 16:29
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Atheism (was: Re: Spam gets religion)
> >
> > No, it's not that argument at all. Complexity isn't a sign of God. My
> > mortgage process was complex, and I can say with complete certainty that
> God
> > had nothing to do with my re-fi.
> >
> > Jim Campbell's response was very interesting. I think his implication that
> > maybe the idea of "creation" can't be known by us at this time is
> > interesting. I think i'm willing to submit that something outside of my
> > understanding, and maybe human understanding period, prompted creation as
> we
> > understand it. I think i'm willing to refer to this process or being or
> > event or whatever....as God.
> >
> > Takes all that religious stuff away...but still leaves me with a belief in
> a
> > "God".
> >
> > > That sounds like the universe is so complex it must have been designed
> > > argument, there is something on it here:
> > >
> > > http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/arguments.html#design
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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