Hey guys, Could you give some feedback on the design for this site? http://www.macomag.com
The client insisted on the colors, but now wants us to remove the white borders. They also want a flat,square font to replace the navigation bar fonts About Us, Subscribe, Contact etc. running across the top. Whaddya think? We've already put out quite a bit on this design, and aren't getting properly compensated for the changes, but there's a bigger job or two coming from the client early next year...so it's one of those 'deals'. :) -Gel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139380 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Fri Dec 10 12:39:39 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Fri Dec 10 04:39:39 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:39 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx9.postini.com ([64.18.0.149] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cck3f-0006pY-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:39 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx9.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:42:07 EST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 069D9F89490D774CB6C913EE70D44AD0 Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:43:46 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 08:41:43 -0400 From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Precedence: bulk References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need Feedback on website To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:38.88744/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 Hey guys, Could you give some feedback on the design for this site? http://www.macomag.com The client insisted on the colors, but now wants us to remove the white borders. They also want a flat,square font to replace the navigation bar fonts About Us, Subscribe, Contact etc. running across the top. Whaddya think? We've already put out quite a bit on this design, and aren't getting properly compensated for the changes, but there's a bigger job or two coming from the client early next year...so it's one of those 'deals'. :) -Gel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:139380 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Fri Dec 10 12:39:43 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Fri Dec 10 04:39:43 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:43 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx89.postini.com ([64.18.0.77] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cck3j-0006pU-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:43 -0800 Received: from source ([213.244.186.176]) by exprod5mx89.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:42:06 EST Received: from 189-21.202-68.tampabay.rr.com (189-21.202-68.tampabay.rr.com [68.202.21.189]) by venus.starserver.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id iBACg2DQ017326 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:42:03 GMT (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from acreage.netpart7.dantos.com id log07777FG; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 22:34:02 -0200 id 7AQ6iH-7777CR-00; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 23:38:02 -0100 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Abeita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 19:41:02 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MERRY CHRISTMAS alterationgalactic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-pstn-levels: (S: 0.32664/97.21673 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.1 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_RFCI_DSN, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=no version=2.64 Tired of the streaming movies you cannot keep? 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From jeff Fri Dec 10 12:39:45 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Fri Dec 10 04:39:45 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:45 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx26.postini.com ([64.18.0.181] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cck3l-0006pz-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:45 -0800 Received: from source ([64.142.19.5]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx26.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:42:14 MST Received: from www.mccmedia.com (adsl-209-204-154-180.sonic.net [209.204.154.180]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBACg2L5031972; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:42:02 -0800 Received: from www.mccmedia.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.mccmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906E71D95C; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:42:00 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by www.mccmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0EC1D951 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-59-168-150.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com ([208.59.168.150] helo=home-b49z7hgn90) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1Cck5r-0006uf-01 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:41:55 -0500 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:35:42 -0500 To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Topics: Long posting Subject: Re: "God Is With Us" L3 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Killer Bs Discussion <brin-l.mccmedia.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://www.mccmedia.com/pipermail/brin-l> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 At 09:20 PM 12/9/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: >Dan wrote: > >> Indeed, he appears to be the inverse of his father...all "the vision >> thing" and virtually no practical implementation. >> > >'cept I wouldn't give him much credit for vision either. Well, you probably wouldn't give him much credit for anything. I don't know what you call a plan for a democratic Iraq, but in my book that is "vision." JDG ________________________________________________________ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "We have one country, one Constitution, and one future that binds us." -George W. Bush, 11/3/2004 ________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l From jeff Fri Dec 10 12:39:47 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Fri Dec 10 04:39:47 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:47 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.0.35] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cck3m-0006qH-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:46 -0800 Received: from source ([216.200.241.78]) by exprod5mx121.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:42:16 PST Received: from amadeus (amadeus.us.checkpoint.com [216.200.241.73]) by davis2.us.checkpoint.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBAAX8PT019955; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:33:33 -0800 Received: from AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT.COM by AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 235227 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:28:02 -0800 Received: from ts.checkpoint.com (osprey.ts.checkpoint.com [216.228.150.100]) by amadeus.us.checkpoint.com (8.12.11/) with ESMTP id iBAAQ5YM030822 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:26:05 -0800 Received: from mahler.ts.checkpoint.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ts.checkpoint.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBAAYJNe001720 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:34:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from postman.bayarea.net (postman.BAYAREA.NET [205.219.84.13]) by mahler.ts.checkpoint.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBAAYG1i013405 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:34:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from pc10 (209-128-93-174.bayarea.net [209.128.93.174]) by postman.bayarea.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id iBAAYFOD049790 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ([192.168.2.253]) by pc10; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:34:09 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcSnbUCXsXiimMyYRuCxCsmr636ikw== Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:32:37 -0800 Reply-To: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Barry J. Stiefel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [FW-1] User Group Meetings 12/14 Santa Clara and 12/16 Simi Valley Comments: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Members of the Check Point User Community, We have two upcoming meetings of CPUG, The Check Point User Group: Tuesday, 12/14 in Santa Clara: http://www.cpug.org/monthly_meeting_announcement.htm Thursday, 12/16 in Simi Valley: http://www.cpug.org/monthly_meeting_announcement_la.htm To see our web site (with lots of photos from our previous meetings): http://www.cpug.org/ Corrent will be demonstrating and explaining their accelerated I/O cards and platforms for Firewall-1. Jeff Douglass will give us a technical, under-the-hood demonstration and lecture. Of course we'll also have lots of terrific door prizes and helpful information for Check Point administrators. There's no admission charge for your first meeting, and dinner (in Santa Clara) or lunch (in Simi Valley) is included. It's open to everyone in the Check Point community. Hope to see you there! Barry Stiefel Barry J. Stiefel ("Stee-ful") CCSA/CCSE/CCSE+/CCSI, CISSP, MCSE, NSA IAM, FCSE 415-543-5222 Founder and President CPUG: The Check Point User Group www.cpug.org ================================================= To set vacation, Out-Of-Office, or away messages, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the BODY of the email add: set fw-1-mailinglist nomail ================================================= To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please see the instructions at http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html ================================================= If you have any questions on how to change your subscription options, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================================= From jeff Fri Dec 10 12:39:46 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Fri Dec 10 04:39:46 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:46 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx125.postini.com ([64.18.0.39] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cck3m-0006qF-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:46 -0800 Received: from source ([216.200.241.78]) by exprod5mx125.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:42:16 PST Received: from amadeus (amadeus.us.checkpoint.com [216.200.241.73]) by davis2.us.checkpoint.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBAA9ANK019847; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 03:01:36 -0800 Received: from AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT.COM by AMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 235426 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:56:04 -0800 Received: from ts.checkpoint.com (osprey.ts.checkpoint.com [216.228.150.100]) by amadeus.us.checkpoint.com (8.12.11/) with ESMTP id iBAAsUJK031894 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 02:54:30 -0800 Received: from mahler.ts.checkpoint.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ts.checkpoint.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBAB2iNe002876 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:02:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from ns.solar.digiweb.at (ns.solar.digiweb.at [212.16.62.132]) by mahler.ts.checkpoint.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBAB2d1j014769 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 05:02:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from pc-schlegel2.mediaprint.co.at (19-6-164-213.customer.coltnet.at [213.164.6.19] (may be forged)) by ns.solar.digiweb.at (8.12.11/8.12.10) with SMTP id iBAB7fmR004329 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:07:42 +0100 Received: from pc-schlegel2.mediaprint.co.at (HELO [127.0.0.1]) [127.0.0.1] by pc-schlegel2.mediaprint.co.at (156.58.170.138) with ESMTP (Classic Hamster Version 2.0 Build 2.0.0.1) ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:46:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posting-Agent: Hamster/2.0.0.1 Lines: 16 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:46:01 +0100 Reply-To: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Christian 'Rana' Schlegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [FW-1] ClusterXL support and docs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Precedence: list X-pstn-levels: (S:67.03753/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.64 Hi, > Hi ppl > Where can I find some documents about ClusterXL installation and > configuration? If you have a UserCenter Account you can download them from the checkpoint site HTH Christian -- Neues auf meiner Heimatseite im Web. Frisch seit Dezember 2003: ein neuer Malediven-Urlaub mit den schönsten Photos [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rana.at Viel Spaß beim Besuch meiner Webseite! ================================================= To set vacation, Out-Of-Office, or away messages, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the BODY of the email add: set fw-1-mailinglist nomail ================================================= To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please see the instructions at http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html ================================================= If you have any questions on how to change your subscription options, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================================= From jeff Fri Dec 10 12:39:45 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Fri Dec 10 04:39:45 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:45 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.0.87] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cck3l-0006px-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:39:45 -0800 Received: from source ([64.142.19.5]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:42:14 PST Received: from www.mccmedia.com (adsl-209-204-154-180.sonic.net [209.204.154.180]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBACg1vl031966; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:42:01 -0800 Received: from www.mccmedia.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.mccmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8781D958; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:41:59 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by www.mccmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB901D951 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-59-168-150.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com ([208.59.168.150] helo=home-b49z7hgn90) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1Cck5r-0006uf-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:41:55 -0500 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:34:41 -0500 To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Killer Bs Discussion <brin-l.mccmedia.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://www.mccmedia.com/pipermail/brin-l> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 At 11:16 PM 12/9/2004 -0500 JDG wrote: >At 11:03 PM 12/9/2004 -0500 Damon Agretto wrote: >>At 09:47 PM 12/9/2004, you wrote: >>>http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/quiz/neoconQuiz.html > >This quiz was pretty bad, but I somehow did end up with the >"neoconservative" rating. This article on neonservatism following the quiz was pretty good.... http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/boot.html JDG ________________________________________________________ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "We have one country, one Constitution, and one future that binds us." -George W. Bush, 11/3/2004 ________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l From jeff Fri Dec 10 12:40:00 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Fri Dec 10 04:40:00 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:40:00 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx120.postini.com ([64.18.0.34] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cck40-0006qh-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:40:00 -0800 Received: from source ([199.232.76.165]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx120.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 06:42:29 CST Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CckGM-0001iJ-S6 for archive@jab.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:52:46 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CckFX-0001T3-Op for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:51:55 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CckFW-0001SL-FF for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:51:54 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CckFW-0001SB-Cp for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:51:54 -0500 Received: from [203.12.22.20] (helo=power.connexus.net.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Cck59-0000mF-T6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:41:12 -0500 Received: from dholmeslaptop (dholmes.dltech.com.au [203.222.72.2]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.12.4/8.11.6) with SMTP id iBACeKJp023992; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:40:23 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service From: "David Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jeroen Frijters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:40:20 +1000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Subject: RE: Memory leak in java.lang.Thread ? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of the implementation of GNU Classpath libraries <classpath.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/classpath> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Jeroen writes: > I've attached my first stab at implementing this. Looks good to me. The only thing I'm a little concerned with is the finalize() method. I know it is the correct thing to do, to avoid a different form of "leak", but I dislike the idea of adding finalizers to core classes like Thread. The "leak" would only occur for daemon-groups to which a thread was added that wasn't started and got lost. This would seem to represent an extremely small percentage of potential programs, while finalize() adds some overhead to every single program. Does anyone actually use daemon groups? Or actually destroy them? I guess some browser style "hosting environments" might. Just a thought ... David Holmes PS. I'll be offline for a few days _______________________________________________ Classpath mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath From jeff Fri Dec 10 12:40:21 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Fri Dec 10 04:40:21 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: archive@jab.org Delivery-date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:40:21 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cck4L-0006r0-00 for <archive@jab.org>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:40:21 -0800 Received: from source ([205.217.113.11]) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:42:50 PST Received: from smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.78] by mail.bestware.biz (SMTPD32-8.01) id AA151520132; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 06:44:05 -0600 Received: from unknown (HELO Ocb4) ([EMAIL PROTECTED] with login) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2004 12:41:58 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Love - hot or cold Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:38:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 So then, Pete (?), what of the numerous Newer Testament references to squabbles that took place between fellow believers? Was their 'love' toward one another 'hot or cold'? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: December 10, 2004 07:17 Subject: [TruthTalk] Love - hot or cold > > > > John Smithson wrote: > > > Do you not remember just how pro-David > > > Miller I once was? I Defended you and took > > > a great deal of abuse for that defense. > > > > Of course I remember how the Lord used you to defend me in a very similar > > misunderstanding involving other people. However, if you were doing this > > because you were "pro-David Miller," that would have been an inappropriate > > motive. Perhaps this is why we are where we are today. God does not want > > you or anyone else being "pro-David Miller." Our eyes need to be on the > > Lord only. We are but clay vessels that are used from time to time for > the > > Master's purpose. You know these things already. > > Hey All. > > I think this concept needs to be addressed. This thinking, if taken too > far leaves people cold. > > There are many scriptures that come to my mind about loving your neighbor > that I know you are all familiar with. > If you say, I do it for the love of God and not the love of the person, then > your position become cold and inpersonable. > > The gospel is a doctrine that talks about loving God, who says we must love > one another. > This means one another and not just embrasing a concept of love. > > Jesus spoke of love as something we do > towards other people and not just Him. If someone defends me because of me > and not because of the Lord, than that can be considered an act of love. > The love we receive from above > extends towards people. If I defend David or G or anyone else on this > forum, it is done because of my genuine concern for the person and not just > an act of mercy done through the letter of some teaching. Are born again > believer's born from above? Do we now possess the Spirit of God within us > to love another not out of duty, but out of our recreated spirits? This is > where we draw our love from. > > The attitude of "do it for the Lord" only is a bad philosophy that leaves > people > cold. If you are defended by someone because they care about you, that > shows love. It is an act out of our newly recreated spirit. It is a > response from what God has done in our lives. > > Paul states: > > 1Th 2:20 For ye are our glory and joy. > > YE, being the Thessalonians. > > I doubt if Paul would have said this if he truly didn't feel this way > towards the people and not just "the teaching" about love. Sometimes our > thinking becomes clouded in spiritual concepts and we lose touch with the > practice of doing things fearing our motives are wrong. I am not saying > that we should not judge ourselves in this respect, but we should not be > cold to one another and say, "I love you in the Lord" without having some > actual genuine concern for the person. This is hypocritical. > > Pete > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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