I was just thinking -- I should probably add that the doctor who made that statement was in my view very caring and extremely competent. He visited me every day and ordered an extraordinary number of blood tests. He certainly didn't base his opinion on a 45 minute assessment.
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:02:02 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Much to my consternation :) I am on Sam's side here. The site is > hardly fluff. It contains 22 separate videos and links to quite a > number of thoughtful pieces on the very real issues this case presents > to Catholic teaching. There are also links to articles in the secular > media, some, I grant you, to WorldNet, but not all of them... there > court documents are there and so is the timeline. It's a very cogent > argument. > > I do see your bmj link but it's ten years old and you know what, half > the medical tests I have had the past couple of months are for things > discovered since then - factor v leiden to give one example. I turn > out to not have any of them, which is good, but it's also good that I > don't have an ex who determines what they test me for! Maybe that'd > the heart of my issue here. It's been less than three months since I > was told that I might be on oxygen the rest of my life. It turned out > the be two more days....medical understanding is an elusive thing and > I am inclined to err on the side of allowing life. Here is another > take on the whole thing, a link from the "nonsubstantive" site :) > > http://www.notdeadyet.org/ > > Dana > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:48:50 -0500, Larry C. Lyons > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lets see if I can put it in small enough words for you to understand. > > > > The 5 court appointed neurologists agreed that Ms. Shaivo was in a > > persistent vegetative state. The AMA and BMA treatement guidelines > > state that no recovery is possible if this state lasts more than a > > year (AMA says 3 months). Ms. Shaivo has been in this state for 10 > > years. There is only a body left that is steadily deteriorating (sorry > > falling apart). No matter how long that body lives there is nothing > > left in the brain. She will be like what she is for now on. > > > > As for the starvation, that is the only legal way to do it, look up > > withholding of treatment. US law forbids more active measures. In > > Shaivo's case it would be more humane to give an overdose of a > > tranquilizer, but that is not allowed. > > > > As for that web site, I see its up to your usual fine standards of > > veracity and quality. Lots of ranting fluff and almost nothing > > involving facts. > > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:33:37 -0800, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tell him that's not true. > > > > > > Since Feb '93 they've been trying to remove him as guardian. Terri was > > > awarded $1.4 million from a malpractice lawsuit that goes to her > > > medical care. If she dies her husband inherits what's left, about $1 > > > million. > > > > > > Ironically, Michael Schiavo never mentioned her so called wishes until > > > after the monetary award. Since then he's been trying to kill her. > > > > > > Also, he's been living with his fiance for ten years and has two kids > > > with her. > > > > > > Main concern is they want to kill her by starvation. She's not on life > > > support. > > > > > > Lot's of stuff. > > > http://www.terrisfight.org/ > > > > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:34:38 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > about a month or two ago? Christmastime? I suppose I could have > > > > misunderstood, but I don't think so.... > > > > > > > > If they are not willing to pay for her care, the issue in my mind is > > > > somewhat different. To be blunt, if we are talking public health > > > > dollars, then the issue of triage perhaps should apply, especially if > > > > the matter is as hopeless as Larry says it is. > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:144777 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
