Well, while I don't really get the poly lifestyle (trying to stay emotionally connected to one man is enough, thanks), I definitely get the distinction between poly and swinger.
And, yah, that guy sounds like a jerk. On 7/8/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So... I'm sorry if some of you find this beyond the pale for the list, > but you know, the HOF community lately is my only social outlet (as > sad as that sounds), because my social groups in south Florida eroded > while I was away last year. > > Many of you know that Tiff and I are bi/polyamorous -- or at least we > consider ourselves to be, although in the past 5 years we've not found > anyone we've been able to develop a good long-term poly relationship > with. Tiff is subscribed to a number of poly mailing lists and > yesterday someone posted an introduction on one of those lists saying > they were poly and providing a link to their site/profile/whatever... > So Tiff checked it out and it's all about sex/swinging -- the term > polyamory (or any variation) isn't mentioned anywhere, just sex, sex > and some more sex. So rather than lambast them (which happens to > swingers who wander on to the wrong poly lists), Tiff sent a reply > saying simply that it was a poly list and that as such they weren't > very likely to receive the kind of response ("hey, ya wanna hook up?") > they were likely interested in from that list. Apparently someone else > on the list (not the moderator) took offense and lambasted her for > pointing out the distinction between people who typically identify as > poly ("relationships -- 'multiple _loves_' -- sex is good with people > you love") and people who typically identify as swingers ("sex -- > probably only sex -- in many cases, 'love' with more than one person > is scary and avoided like the plague"). > > Excerpt from his response: > > --------------------------- > > My impression of a poly gathering so far is that bunch of unfuckables > are coming together to prove their worth. Cuz if they know they are > sexy, why stop when chemistry is right? Do we want to limit ourselves > by definitions? Or do we want our love to be unlimited? Who can > distinguish the purpose of sex from the purpose of relating? How can > one relate to another without the ultimate closeness of genital > contact? My brain hurts from these questions and too much tequilla... > Cudos to all of you who know me in bed and yet did not form a > relationship.. Next life, maybe.. > > --------------------------- > > I dunno... it just seems to me like any reasonable person with a > diverse set of emotions (like, I think most people have) should be > able to tell the difference between someone who wants to _know_ you > (your loves, your hates, your quirks, the "art" of you) and someone > who just wants to get in your pants because they're addicted to the > endorphine release of orgasm. > > For instance -- the "art" of Jim Davis (if you pay attention, there's > a very definate style to all of his emails, a certain way he talks, > and the way he uses the ^ character in emoticons) is very different > from the "art" of mtangry (this is self-explanatory isn't it?) or Tony > Weed... err... I mean Weeg. :) My moods vary (I hope most people's do) > and although I'm not sexually attracted to _any_ of the > afforementioned men (no offense guys, you're just not my type. :) I > enjoy "hanging out" and talking about things (I hope most people do) > and that experience would be different with each of them so I'd like > to think it's natural that as my moods change, I would want to spend > that time talking with different people. I wouldn't go pal-around with > Jim when I'm mtAngry, because Jim doesn't seem like the sort of person > who'd enjoy that mood. And I'm not likely to hang out with Tony much > at all because, well, I don't know how to inhale. :P > > No wonder so many self-identified "poly people" have that knee-jerk > response to swingers... <sigh> > > FUCK-WIT! > > /end rant... > > yeah, I'm in one of those mtAngry moods... > > > s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 > new epoch : isn't it time for a change? > > add features without fixtures with > the onTap open source framework > > http://www.fusiontap.com > http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:163764 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54