That works for me. There really ought to be a level of governmental responsibility as a citizen. Of course, I have no idea what being a non-citizen means. Does it mean that you can't own land? Do you have no Constitutional rights? Are you ineligible for welfare? I think that mandatory government service would straighten out a lot of people who would otherwise be detrimental to society.
Matthew Small -----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:13 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why CIA Permantly Hurt By Plame Leak In the book it wasn't necessarily military service. To get the vote and its attendent responibility you had to serve a term of government service. That could be almost anything from scraping manure from the elephant stalls at the local zoo, to shuffling papers in an office to getting shot at by foreign types who object to the most recent trade policies. The critical factor is that the person is willing to serve a 5 year term in service to the country. larry On 7/28/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is referring to Starship Troopers, right? How exactly did things work > in that book? What does "Citizienship" convey to the citizen that a > non-citizen does not get? > > > Matthew Small > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Why CIA Permantly Hurt By Plame Leak > > Didn't you read the other thread Sam. > > The new age for the army reserves is up to 45. > > Oh, and I am huge Heinlein fan. You can have all the rights, other than > voting, in my eyes. God that would be a kewl government :) > > Sam wrote: > > Look I appreciate your volunteering and everyone else that's served, > > but I'm getting a little sick and tired of people telling me if you > > didn't serve you can't discuss war. It's bullshit. Might as well burn > > all the history books. > > > > > http://www.military.com/Recruiting/Content/0,13898,rec_step02_eligibility,,0 > 0.html > > > > In 1990 I was 29. Too old to join the Air force, still might get my > > pilots license though. > > > > > > On 7/27/05, William Bowen wrote: > > > >>>I don't know about "we" but I think Will supported him :) > >> > >>Hey Sam, > >> > >>My family (multiple members of it) gets put in harms' way when the > >>President (Clinton, both Bushes any president) decides to put troops > >>on the ground or bombs in the sky. > >> > >>So thanks very much for your assumption, but you are (as with many > >>things) mistaken, I cannot in good conscience support any decision > >>that risks the life of my, or anyone elses, loved ones. That being > >>said, I realize that they, and I at one time, made the decision to > >>volunteer for service and that does mean that when they say go, you > >>go. It does not mean I have to support the decision to send them. > >> > >>You have stated many times on this list that you support the actions > >>of our current President and his decisions to go to war, yet when > >>challenged to sign yourself up for action, you repeated have > >>begged-off with "I'm too old to serve." IIRC you're 44, that means you > >>were of optimal age to volunteer during Desert Storm. Did you? > >> > >>Hey Sam, if you're a conscientious objector there's no problem, but I > >>suspect from your posts that you are not, now or then. > >> > >>And hey Sam, FWIW, though I doubt you care, my uncle, who is > >>officially inactive (for 4+ years) from the Reserves, is 50 years old > >>and recently got a recall notice and orders to report for a physical. > >> > >>If he's fit, he's going to get assigned to a post his MOS qualifies > >>him for. Bradley mechanic. hrmmm... and where do they need the most > >>mechanics? > >> > >>-- > >>will > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:166884 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
