A spoiler provides down force. In the case of my car the shape of the hood, the big hood scoop, the air dam push down on the front, and the spoiler keeps the rear wheels down. You trying to tell me that a front wheel drive car can't loose rear wheel traction?
A 1000 hp 4 is usually going to have a twin turbo set up, huge or non-existent exhaust, big injectors, all new onboard electronics and custom mappings, all new internals. It's a lot of work. I know there is no replacement for displacement. Don't get me wrong, I know you can do a lot more wit a 350 or a big block. I am just saying, your average mustang or F body owner sees me roll up and starts to smile, right until they see my tail lights. Tim Heald Senior Web Developer TeraTech, Inc. 2003 Winner CFDJ awards Best Consulting Service Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 1-301-424-3903 x111 Web: http://www.teratech.com SStewart wrote: > Spoilers are to provide downforce over a drive axle, putting a spoiler on a > front wheel drive car provides the opposite effect causing the car to loose > traction. If you want to glue the car to the pavement, use ground effects, > front air dams and side skirts these will create a vacuum effect under the > car and pull it down. > > What did they do to the civic engine to pull 1100HP, I know how to get 4000 > HP out of a V-8. I thought F-1 engines were it at 745HP > > Scott A. Stewart, > Web Application Developer > > Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS) > 14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300 > Chantilly, VA 20151 > Phone: (703) 995-1737 > Fax: (703) 834-5527 > > "Many thousands of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep > carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" > > .... the Scottish Rogues > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 02:30 pm > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: yeah, we are weird... but the brits are too! > Importance: Low > > 1. Most of the real 4 cyl monsters are all wheel drive not front wheel > drive. > > 2. Spoilers are to keep your car on the ground at high speed. Mine > doesn't work until over 100 mph. > > 3. Please don't confuse the ricer kids with the serious sport compact > enthusiast. > > Would an 1100 HP civic do? > > I know you said 4 cyl so I won't talk about the Supras I have seen. > > Tim Heald > Senior Web Developer > TeraTech, Inc. > 2003 Winner CFDJ awards Best Consulting Service > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Voice: 1-301-424-3903 x111 > Web: http://www.teratech.com > > SStewart wrote: > >>You'll never get the off line torque from front wheel drive that you'll get >>from rear wheel drive, which is why all serious racing vehicles are still and >>always will be rear wheel drive. >> >>And why do people expect whale tails and spoilers to do any good mounted on >>the rear of a front wheel drive car. >> >>Show me a 1000hp four cylinder and I'll believe you :) >> >>Scott A. Stewart, >>Web Application Developer >> >>Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS) >>14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300 >>Chantilly, VA 20151 >>Phone: (703) 995-1737 >>Fax: (703) 834-5527 >> >>"Many thousands of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep >>carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" >> >>.... the Scottish Rogues >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 02:14 pm >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Re: yeah, we are weird... but the brits are too! >>Importance: Low >> >>Hehehe >> >>Oh yea of little faith. >> >>Tim Heald >>Senior Web Developer >>TeraTech, Inc. >>2003 Winner CFDJ awards Best Consulting Service >> >>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Voice: 1-301-424-3903 x111 >>Web: http://www.teratech.com >> >>Matthew Small wrote: >> >> >>>That's one of the problems with tuners... they do have fast cars, but they >>>think that a modded 4 cyl engine is going to beat a modded 8 cyl engine. >>>Just ain't gonna happen. A modded 4 banger could take a stock 8 though. >>> >>> >>>Matt Small >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: SStewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:47 PM >>>To: CF-Community >>>Subject: RE: yeah, we are weird... but the brits are too! >>> >>>I don't know if they're faster, my Nova was rated at 835 HP on the stand and >>>around 735 at the wheels, it'd do mid eights in a quarter mile. I used to >>>have so much fun with this car 'cause to the casual observer it looked and >>>sounded terrible, (black primer and the typical "cam-lope" plus the whining >>>of the blower and the gear drive). >>> >>>Took an 83 Corvette one night street racing, over a two and a half mile >>>stretch, by almost a minute. >>> >>>Scott A. Stewart, >>>Web Application Developer >>> >>>Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS) >>>14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300 >>>Chantilly, VA 20151 >>>Phone: (703) 995-1737 >>>Fax: (703) 834-5527 >>> >>>"Many thousands of years ago, a blue faced Pict stepped on a bloated sheep >>>carcass... and thus the Pipes were born" >>> >>>..... the Scottish Rogues >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 01:31 pm >>>To: CF-Community >>>Subject: Re: yeah, we are weird... but the brits are too! >>>Importance: Low >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Stewart wrote: >>>>I'll take the blown and injected Chevy Nova I had in High School >>> >>> >>>I remember all of that stuff: >>> >>>Dual Holley carb, Thrush torqueshaft, Mr. Gasket shift kit, Keystone >>>mags, "meats", etc. >>> >>>It's all of the same stuff, just way faster cars. Although some of >>>them don't feel fast and that can be a problem. The great thing is, >>>though, that you can buy a $30K Evo 8, put a few grand into it, and >>>rock corvettes, ferraris, etc. Some of these cars have 500 whp and >>>higher. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase Contribute 3 from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=53 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:168865 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
